Did the lack of Action Steps take away from the usefulness of this book?

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Re: Did the lack of Action Steps take away from the usefulness of this book?

Post by CinWin » 05 Nov 2018, 09:49

Action steps at the end of each chapter are two-fold. Sometimes they pertain to the readers life - other times they are just something I would not do. I made my own action steps for this book. Also, when you take the time to do that yourself, it solidifies the knowledge into your brain and you get more out of the book.
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Post by FictionLover » 05 Nov 2018, 11:07

Ah, great idea! That makes it personal specific.
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Post by chelhack » 05 Nov 2018, 23:05

I found this book to be filled with many actions steps through those steps may not be in or of physical form...
  • Crawl, walk then run,
  • Taking responsibility for yourself
  • Take control of your own thinking
These to me are all action steps along with many others that I felt this book consists of.
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Post by FictionLover » 06 Nov 2018, 07:51

chelhack wrote:
05 Nov 2018, 23:05
I found this book to be filled with many actions steps through those steps may not be in or of physical form...
  • Crawl, walk then run,
  • Taking responsibility for yourself
  • Take control of your own thinking
These to me are all action steps along with many others that I felt this book consists of.
Hi,

I guess I see those as guidelines, or rules. To me it's like someone saying, "I'm going to teach you how to drive. First drive the speed limit, then slow down when you see a yellow light and stop when you see a red light. Stay in your lane and concentrate on the road."

Though you need to know those rules, that alone does not teach you to drive. You need a basic knowledge of how a car works. You need to understand the difference between the gas and the break, and you need to learn how to set the mirrors, etc. Those are the action steps.
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Post by Holarwale » 08 Nov 2018, 06:21

I think it was written in a way where one idea flows into the next. I sometimes breeze past action steps in books anyway, and I felt this was good as it was written. I was able to grasp on to what he described without further exercises at the end of each chapter.
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Post by lesler » 08 Nov 2018, 10:51

No, I never really thought of the action steps until this thread appeared before my eyes. That is a typical motivational book, but the title proves this is a different type of book. It works ok for me without the action plan and steps.

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Post by mapittz » 08 Nov 2018, 11:21

I'm still in the midst of completing this book, however even half way through, I feel the lack of action steps. I don't want exercises at the end of each chapter, maybe bullet points of what is trying to be stated, however it felt as if rambling was happening with blunt expressions.

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Post by Cher432 » 10 Nov 2018, 12:46

Having something written down is usually the first step in actually trying to change. The lack of action steps were a bit of a pity but I don't think the author claimed to be a life coach, so I was fine with their absence.

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Post by FictionLover » 10 Nov 2018, 21:08

Cher432 wrote:
10 Nov 2018, 12:46
Having something written down is usually the first step in actually trying to change. The lack of action steps were a bit of a pity but I don't think the author claimed to be a life coach, so I was fine with their absence.
Interesting point.
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Post by acremer » 11 Nov 2018, 00:02

I think more direct action steps would have been beneficial for several readers.

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Post by FictionLover » 11 Nov 2018, 06:46

acremer wrote:
11 Nov 2018, 00:02
I think more direct action steps would have been beneficial for several readers.
I think they would also benefit some readers, but as I can see from the comments, not all readers thought they were necessary.
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Post by acremer » 11 Nov 2018, 19:37

True. To each their own.

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Post by raqstar1 » 12 Nov 2018, 10:36

I really think that this book was more of a reminder for those who have already heard the main points than a true self help. As I read it, there were a few moments of 'Oh yeah' reminders. I don't think action points would have been very helpful because it really isn't a 'how to' book with steps to take. It's more like a metaphorical slap back into reality.
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Post by ViziVoir » 12 Nov 2018, 19:24

I feel like suggesting action steps or providing anecdotes would have been extremely valuable. Without them, it can feel like the author's ideas don't have much practical grounding at all.

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Post by FictionLover » 12 Nov 2018, 21:56

ViziVoir wrote:
12 Nov 2018, 19:24
I feel like suggesting action steps or providing anecdotes would have been extremely valuable. Without them, it can feel like the author's ideas don't have much practical grounding at all.
I agree.
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