Is Rap Poetry?
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Is Rap Poetry?
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I had a look at the beat poets but somehow, its not the same thing as rap...
Still, I run a creative writing club for nine and ten year olds of a veeery wide range of abilities and I use rap songs to teach them about how sound and rhythm work in poetry. And it works. So there must be something to it!
Then again, looking at someone like Tom Waits. His songs are undoubtably in my mind poetry, and to music. Yet I would hardly call him a rap artist. So rap must be more than just poetry to music.
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My favourites would be Jay Z, Kayne West, Snoop Dogg, Dr. Dre, Eminiem, NWA, Public Enemy.
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Stellarrrrr selection of gents there! They're defffinitely some of my favs as well Politically slanted rap is awesome Heyyyy I feel like rappin now! hahaclarebear wrote:Its so refreshing to hear people with an open minded opinion on something as controvercial as rap. I personally really like some rap music. Some of it is very intelligent and takes a great amount of talent to write. I particually like politically slanted rap.
My favourites would be Jay Z, Kayne West, Snoop Dogg, Dr. Dre, Eminiem, NWA, Public Enemy.
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Regarding the rappers who go on about sex, violence, and money, commercialism and art never mix well, in my opinion. That's why the type of music--be it hip-hop or not--on the radio, on MTV's TRL or on BET's Rap City is not generally considered high quality. It is to music what McDonald's is to food. It's meant to appeal to the lowest common denominator. I do not mean to insult mainstream art or those who produce it, but I just mean to point out that it is meant to appeal just enough to large groups, but not to be artistically deep or beautiful. From a commercial standpoint, it is preferred to have a whole lot of people like your work a little bit than to have a few people love it a lot. What sells is sex, violence, money-talking, and light-hearted fun; and that's true not only for music, but for movies, books, TV shows and so forth. And that's fine because every so often we all like to sit down and watch a relatively superficial but fun movie or go to the club and dance to some silly new song.
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sleepydumpling wrote:It is most definitely poetry. And like all other poetry, there is quality and crap!
A forthright, no-nonsense opinion from Oz! I love it
Rap must be considered as poetry - just doesnt press any buttons for me, probably down to my perception of the music.
I expect if I looked beyond the bling and guns and cars and sex and violence ....there would be something worthwhile.
But why? I already have books I'll never read and music I'll never hear and places I will never visit. Time is finite (Sorry Albert).
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Libellus baby!! Say it isn't so! Maybe just a little Snoop?? Bit of Kayne??Libellus wrote:sleepydumpling wrote:It is most definitely poetry. And like all other poetry, there is quality and crap!
A forthright, no-nonsense opinion from Oz! I love it
Rap must be considered as poetry - just doesnt press any buttons for me, probably down to my perception of the music.
I expect if I looked beyond the bling and guns and cars and sex and violence ....there would be something worthwhile.
But why? I already have books I'll never read and music I'll never hear and places I will never visit. Time is finite (Sorry Albert).
Jay-ZZZZZZ...come on Libellus...go on, brush your shoulders off
ladies is pimps too, go on, brush your shoulders off