Do you question the existence of God?

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Brox wrote:I believe God exists, but I question a form of his existence. Many people talk about God but in fact, no one knows anything for sure. Does he look like a man or does he have some other shape and form? Is he actually a strong vibration of energy and does he have a body like we do?
I always wondered about that too. In the bible it says that God made man in the shape of himself. I do believe that is one of his forms but I believe he can take on any shape or form.
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In my 21 years of existence, there were few times that I questioned the existence of GOD: whether he is true or not. I always asked him why he have continually allowed bad person to become rich, then good person to suffer in worst condition like poverty and hunger; why he did not gave us one "specific" belief or religion, for us to become more civilize and united in one goal; why he allowed innocent people to become victims of brutal crimes and sickness like rape and cancer, and many questions like those. Also, I would like to ask him personally, since he is all-knowing GOD, why there are bad person given and vested so much talents and skills, and deprived those good and industrious layman to possess similar characteristics, for them to at least escape from their worst condition. I am not an "Atheist," in fact I am A CHRIST believer man, but those questions were really mystical for me. I hope that someday, GOD will enlighten me for my questions. For anyone who can give advice and answers to me, biblical
or not, I am willing to entertain your answers. Thank you..
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Which god? The God of the Torah? Allah as he's described in the Quaran? Zeus? Ra? The Great Green Arkleseizure?

For the question to be meaningful, we have to know *which* god you mean. Then, we have to know how we would even confirm or dispute the discovery of such a being. Is there an empirical test to let us know we've found god? Can we even devise a falsifiable statement to use in such an experiment?

Take the statement "Gravity propagates in a measurable wave through spacetime." Until recent times, scientists couldn't give a definite yes or no to this statement. Along came a brilliant experiment and the chance to see it in action, and we now know the answer.

Now what statement do you propose for the existence or nonexistence of God? What experiment can we perform, and what data can we gather? How do we go about interpreting such data?

This is why I'm agnostic. I don't know if God exists, sure, but my agnosticism goes a step further - I don't think you could get any group of people to agree on what "God" is long enough to devise a meaningful test, let alone answer such a question. But I also think the universe is just fine without a God - there's so much out there to found, and any one of us could make the next incredible discovery. That's spirituality for me - humans can discover bits and pieces of the universe, and ourselves in the process.
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To: TCC Edwards,
Hi, Good day. I would like to reply with your previous comments..If you are pretty much sure that there is no GOD, you also had many questions to be ask for? right? who do you think is the one who create sky, mountains, and other living things? Can we create these things?? Of course, the answer is probably not. We cannot justify these things even we use science or any other human parameters. I have many question regarding the existence of GOD; what is his real name; and why he did not perfectly create the universe, but at the end of the day, I really believed that there is one superior and almighty GOD who create everything including human. This is the question that you cannot anymore explain, even you asked million of people around the world.Science cannot correctly argued to the world that those things which cannot explain and be explained by science are now under "natural science". that is very ironic.
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This book may question the writer if god does exist. The book grabs you from the beginning. Unlike some of the other books I have read. From the first chapter which I do like the setting make you wonder the exact question. Personally god is real. He allows the pain so u can see beauty. Everyone has heard this a terrible storm is happening not thing is still so you think. But in a tree thier is a mother bird with her wings holding tightly her baby bird This is gods love. We need to look all around us and look beyond what we normally would see. As the writer has done.
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TCC Edwards wrote:Which god? The God of the Torah? Allah as he's described in the Quaran? Zeus? Ra? The Great Green Arkleseizure?

For the question to be meaningful, we have to know *which* god you mean. Then, we have to know how we would even confirm or dispute the discovery of such a being. Is there an empirical test to let us know we've found god? Can we even devise a falsifiable statement to use in such an experiment?

Take the statement "Gravity propagates in a measurable wave through spacetime." Until recent times, scientists couldn't give a definite yes or no to this statement. Along came a brilliant experiment and the chance to see it in action, and we now know the answer.

Now what statement do you propose for the existence or nonexistence of God? What experiment can we perform, and what data can we gather? How do we go about interpreting such data?

This is why I'm agnostic. I don't know if God exists, sure, but my agnosticism goes a step further - I don't think you could get any group of people to agree on what "God" is long enough to devise a meaningful test, let alone answer such a question. But I also think the universe is just fine without a God - there's so much out there to found, and any one of us could make the next incredible discovery. That's spirituality for me - humans can discover bits and pieces of the universe, and ourselves in the process.
That's quite a view. You sound like you are definitely sure about what you believe and think.

I disagree though that you can't get a group of people to agree on "God." There are groups of people that have believed in God for quite a while. It's just that those separate groups all disagree about who God is.
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I used to question and seriously doubt God's existence and then I was lucky enough to have a lot of my questions about Him answered and now most of the time I don't need to question anything because I have a relationship with Him that demonstrates his presence to me daily.
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No. I've always instinctively felt that there is something outside the physical realm in which we currently reside, and I've had some personal experiences to back that feeling up.
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bluegreenmarina wrote:I used to question and seriously doubt God's existence and then I was lucky enough to have a lot of my questions about Him answered and now most of the time I don't need to question anything because I have a relationship with Him that demonstrates his presence to me daily.
Yes, when you have a relationship with God, you no longer have the desire to question him. It's the same for me. :)
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I was brought up in a culture which doesn't question enough about religious issues. But from the time of my later high school days, I started questioning validity and relevance of certain practices and rituals that goes along with accepting God's existence in my parents' religion (Hinduism). I got really interested in the topic and started reading books and watching debates on similar issues. Richard Dawkins became one of those who made sense to me and now I'm happily an atheist for like 3-4 years. But I still occasionally listens to other people's point of view and try to reason with them or reason with myself.
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I have many a time. I was not brought up with the church and do question rather than take at face value. I think I would class myself as agnostic. I believe something is there but not entirely sure of what that is.
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Absolutely Not! I have had experiences in my life that proves God exist. I did not grow up in church but knew of God. Now as an adult, I have learned much more about the Holy Trinity and try to teach my children. I do not go to church near as much as I should but I try to talk to God often. I have had horrible things happen in my life. These events did not make me question God. They made me draw closer to Him and seek his guidance and help.
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Not at All! Personally I feel Jehovah God exists and genuinely cares for humans. Prayer through His Son Jesus Christ and Faith in His direction have saved me countless times in life. "Draw close to God and He will draw close to you". -James 4:8

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The Bible also uses figurative language which can be hard to understand if not meditated on. It does say he made man in His image. As explained to me by ones much wiser than I am. That refers to the qualities He gave us, like love for instance, the most important of all.
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Like others, I question more than I don't. I do not have a strong belief that God irxists, despite a Catholic upbringing. If I had to state what my faith is, I would say it is something to what is described in The Color Purple, mixed with Native American beliefs. But I don't necessarily believe in "white man's God," as Walker puts it in The Color Purple.
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I am tempted to borrow this quote from Augustine “I believe so that I can understand, but I understand so that I can believe”. Knowing and Worshiping God is a ‘faith business’. Mankind’s attempt to know God has to be presented in humility. I ignorantly used to challenge the existence of God until I discovered the cosmological, teleological and anthropological evidence of the existence of God (which is all around us); not to talk about my personal faith-filled awesome experiences. Need I say more?

"Science is always trying to explain what 'was' and what 'is' " i.e. God
So now the sequel to The Big bang theory is Plasma theory.... . The evolution is on. Scientific discovery is good. It reveals our power of dominion from God to subdue the earth.
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