Great Expectations by Charles Dickens
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Re: Great Expectations by Charles Dickens
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True Estella is a product of her upbringing and Dickens presents us with an intriguing study into how a warped mind turns around and uses a young mind for purposes of its own and how Estella's very core of being is brainwashed and moulded into an equally emotionally stunted persona as Miss Havisham herself.There are a few interesting points that i picked up on,that one; Miss Havisham might have been prone to this obsessive disorder as we know later that she pursued the wicked young man against the wishes of her father,two;the fact that she cant get over it is indicative of a warped persona triggered because of the cataclysmic event of betrayal.She's not totally without it...we see how she manipulates her relatives whomshe knows are after her money etc... Joe's character is also flawed because his abject behaviour before his wife is not normal and then we see that he has been through a traumatic childhood,abuse and violence.its just wonerful wonderful stuff and the more i read GE the more i appreciate the genius of Dickensflorajavier wrote:This is one of my all-time favorite books. Although, I must say that, even though I appreciate Pip's growth and the roundness of his character, I find him to be the least sympathetic. Perhaps it's because it's impossible to read this tale without falling in love with Joe for his straightforward goodness and unconditional love for Pip, who then breaks our hearts by the way he treats Joe.But then I also feel for Ms. Havisham, for what she goes through--- how she is hopelessly broken and twisted. Even Estella, who does not know any better, a prisoner of her upbringing for she is raised and bred to be no other than the person that she is, draws sympathy in my opinion. It is only Pip's character that I did not appreciate much.
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I think Dickens in GE sets up a parallel between Miss Havisham's reaction to being betrayed by her fiancé & the way Joe responds to a not discimilar betrayal by Pip. There is a touch of the it's not what happens to you but how you respond in all of Dickens books.
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Dickens characters always remind me of the saying "every childhood lasts a lifetime" & the extent to which childhood trauma impacts adult life would not have been recognised in Dickens time.
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Fran wrote:@florajavierI think Dickens in GE sets up a parallel between Miss Havisham's reaction to being betrayed by her fiancé & the way Joe responds to a not discimilar betrayal by Pip. There is a touch of the it's not what happens to you but how you respond in all of Dickens books.
Yes that's true that's a main sort of theme in his books isnt it. as in David Copperfield,Dora can't cope with practical life but Agnes can and Copperfield does feel aggrieved about the weakness of his mother in front of Mr.Murdstone and wishes she had coped with it in a different way.
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Miss Havisham's character whose whole existence is shaped by one event in her life. This one event causes a deep bitterness and resentment that reshapes not only her life, but, the life of Estella as well and sucks any happiness from her ward.
Havisham's hatred for the man who did her wrong and the life that she was deprived is what she sets out to deprive Estella of any glimpse of the happiness she herself couldn't have.
Then there is the character of 'Pip', who is reshaped in a more positive way but, is drawn back into the web of unhappiness that comes from his affection for Estella. As Estella grows to adulthood it is apparent that 'Havisham' has re-created Estella in her own bitter and unhappy image.
Austen's and Dicken's characters both in 'Emma' and 'Great Expectations but, also in their other books and stories are very deep and complicated characters. Many of their central characters are emotionally inadequate in one respect or another, This allows the characters to show growth and change as the stories are weaved and concluded.
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It was brilliant, and added to that when your studying , you tend to do more analysis and references which frankly for me made the reading awesome.
Oh and used to watch this really old BBC adaption of the same. Pretty good actually.