Shouldn't it be "if used sparingly ...and with a purpose?"BuzzingQuill wrote: ↑05 Jun 2019, 05:59I honestly didn't enjoy this about the book. Because it was so frequently used, I think that it drew away the suspense, if used sparingly, I think it could have enhanced the book and made Cynthia seemed much more competentFerdinand_otieno wrote: ↑01 Jun 2019, 09:04 Did you feel that a protagonist who seemed to be in ever present danger and just barely survived was good for the book? Did she make the story more thrilling?
What did Cynthia facing constant danger do for the book?
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Oh yes definitely, purpose is a must. You can't have a character put in life-threatening situations just for the sake of it. But I would argue that Mercer does have a purpose for it as it usually furthers the Cyber-warfare subplot, I don't have an issue with her using it, but I wish it would have been used more sparsely.Ferdinand_otieno wrote: ↑07 Jun 2019, 05:14Shouldn't it be "if used sparingly ...and with a purpose?"BuzzingQuill wrote: ↑05 Jun 2019, 05:59I honestly didn't enjoy this about the book. Because it was so frequently used, I think that it drew away the suspense, if used sparingly, I think it could have enhanced the book and made Cynthia seemed much more competentFerdinand_otieno wrote: ↑01 Jun 2019, 09:04 Did you feel that a protagonist who seemed to be in ever present danger and just barely survived was good for the book? Did she make the story more thrilling?
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Yes, completely true.BuzzingQuill wrote: ↑07 Jun 2019, 06:55Oh yes definitely, purpose is a must. You can't have a character put in life-threatening situations just for the sake of it. But I would argue that Mercer does have a purpose for it as it usually furthers the Cyber-warfare subplot, I don't have an issue with her using it, but I wish it would have been used more sparsely.Ferdinand_otieno wrote: ↑07 Jun 2019, 05:14Shouldn't it be "if used sparingly ...and with a purpose?"BuzzingQuill wrote: ↑05 Jun 2019, 05:59
I honestly didn't enjoy this about the book. Because it was so frequently used, I think that it drew away the suspense, if used sparingly, I think it could have enhanced the book and made Cynthia seemed much more competent
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Couldn't have said it any better.Shelly Caetano wrote: ↑07 Jun 2019, 08:19 Often, when constant dangers surround the main character there is a sense of thrill and intrigue. Sometimes, it makes the overall book more compelling; especially when it comes to how the protagonist navigates such danger. This is not the case with Cynthia. The constant danger that surrounds Cynthia points to the characters flaws and incompetence. Instead of thrilling, I found it to be a constant source of frustration. It did not create a filling of thrill or intrigue for me, but rather a deep sense of dissatisfaction.
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Thank you for sharing in the topic.BuzzingQuill wrote: ↑07 Jun 2019, 06:55Oh yes definitely, purpose is a must. You can't have a character put in life-threatening situations just for the sake of it. But I would argue that Mercer does have a purpose for it as it usually furthers the Cyber-warfare subplot, I don't have an issue with her using it, but I wish it would have been used more sparsely.Ferdinand_otieno wrote: ↑07 Jun 2019, 05:14Shouldn't it be "if used sparingly ...and with a purpose?"BuzzingQuill wrote: ↑05 Jun 2019, 05:59
I honestly didn't enjoy this about the book. Because it was so frequently used, I think that it drew away the suspense, if used sparingly, I think it could have enhanced the book and made Cynthia seemed much more competent
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A careless protagonist who has moments of changing personalities and becoming a protector of a US Senator and combatting cyberterrorism-seems unbelievable.sarahmarlowe wrote: ↑01 Jun 2019, 19:31I didn't like Cynthia as a protagonist from early in the book. I found her dimwitted about her surroundings, getting herself into danger as much as having danger find her. For example, when she meets Sky, she trusts him enough to give him the make, model, and tag number of her unlocked, keys-in-it car? Good grief. And then she is happy that "his friend" has taken care of it? She's not my definition of a strong female character. Or strong any kind of character. I don't think she made the story thrilling, more like frustrating.Ferdinand_otieno wrote: ↑01 Jun 2019, 09:04 Did you feel that a protagonist who seemed to be in ever present danger and just barely survived was good for the book? Did she make the story more thrilling?
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Her personality traits are especially puzzling because she and Glenn seem to spend a lot of time driving home the point to Tim and Garth about security. Don't talk about what they are doing outside of the cyber war room, etc. because there's no such thing as privacy, anyone can be listening and there are terrorists who are hunting down individuals. When Cynthia cut off contact with Sky because she couldn't find any information about him my first thought was, "oh he's a terrorist, he found her on purpose, he didn't just randomly run into her on the street...".Ferdinand_otieno wrote: ↑03 Jun 2019, 00:17Yes, the great irony of a protagonist who battles conspiracy and cyber-terrorism, but has no problem leaving herself open and vulnerable to strangers who could be killers, adversaries, or worse. It was an unrealistic characterization for the protagonist.Stephanie Elizabeth wrote: ↑02 Jun 2019, 07:53I completely agree! Cynthia irritated me from the get-go because of her lack of common sense. Why would anyone go to a stranger's house after just meeting him? Sky seemed like he was the domineering type, and Cynthia quickly fell under his spell. I do feel that female protagonist should have included someone with common sense and a backbone, especially considering her job.sarahmarlowe wrote: ↑01 Jun 2019, 19:31
I didn't like Cynthia as a protagonist from early in the book. I found her dimwitted about her surroundings, getting herself into danger as much as having danger find her. For example, when she meets Sky, she trusts him enough to give him the make, model, and tag number of her unlocked, keys-in-it car? Good grief. And then she is happy that "his friend" has taken care of it? She's not my definition of a strong female character. Or strong any kind of character. I don't think she made the story thrilling, more like frustrating.
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Like I said, plot oriented character. The author had it in his mind to make her reckless despite his contradicting plan to make her head security of a senator and combatting cybersecurity. The characters needed to play these two roles must be two different ones.chiadeer wrote: ↑08 Jun 2019, 13:49Her personality traits are especially puzzling because she and Glenn seem to spend a lot of time driving home the point to Tim and Garth about security. Don't talk about what they are doing outside of the cyber war room, etc. because there's no such thing as privacy, anyone can be listening and there are terrorists who are hunting down individuals. When Cynthia cut off contact with Sky because she couldn't find any information about him my first thought was, "oh he's a terrorist, he found her on purpose, he didn't just randomly run into her on the street...".Ferdinand_otieno wrote: ↑03 Jun 2019, 00:17Yes, the great irony of a protagonist who battles conspiracy and cyber-terrorism, but has no problem leaving herself open and vulnerable to strangers who could be killers, adversaries, or worse. It was an unrealistic characterization for the protagonist.Stephanie Elizabeth wrote: ↑02 Jun 2019, 07:53
I completely agree! Cynthia irritated me from the get-go because of her lack of common sense. Why would anyone go to a stranger's house after just meeting him? Sky seemed like he was the domineering type, and Cynthia quickly fell under his spell. I do feel that female protagonist should have included someone with common sense and a backbone, especially considering her job.
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Every single time she got reckless I felt like I was reading about another character, different from the first.Ferdinand_otieno wrote: ↑08 Jun 2019, 23:46Like I said, plot oriented character. The author had it in his mind to make her reckless despite his contradicting plan to make her head security of a senator and combatting cybersecurity. The characters needed to play these two roles must be two different ones.chiadeer wrote: ↑08 Jun 2019, 13:49Her personality traits are especially puzzling because she and Glenn seem to spend a lot of time driving home the point to Tim and Garth about security. Don't talk about what they are doing outside of the cyber war room, etc. because there's no such thing as privacy, anyone can be listening and there are terrorists who are hunting down individuals. When Cynthia cut off contact with Sky because she couldn't find any information about him my first thought was, "oh he's a terrorist, he found her on purpose, he didn't just randomly run into her on the street...".Ferdinand_otieno wrote: ↑03 Jun 2019, 00:17
Yes, the great irony of a protagonist who battles conspiracy and cyber-terrorism, but has no problem leaving herself open and vulnerable to strangers who could be killers, adversaries, or worse. It was an unrealistic characterization for the protagonist.
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Yes, I agree. If it had been used more sporadically, it would have been bearable.BuzzingQuill wrote: ↑07 Jun 2019, 06:55Oh yes definitely, purpose is a must. You can't have a character put in life-threatening situations just for the sake of it. But I would argue that Mercer does have a purpose for it as it usually furthers the Cyber-warfare subplot, I don't have an issue with her using it, but I wish it would have been used more sparsely.Ferdinand_otieno wrote: ↑07 Jun 2019, 05:14Shouldn't it be "if used sparingly ...and with a purpose?"BuzzingQuill wrote: ↑05 Jun 2019, 05:59
I honestly didn't enjoy this about the book. Because it was so frequently used, I think that it drew away the suspense, if used sparingly, I think it could have enhanced the book and made Cynthia seemed much more competent
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I think the inability of the author to commit to either a reckless protagonist or a responsible intelligent self-sufficient protagonist hurt the book.Ferdinand_otieno wrote: ↑07 Jun 2019, 11:52Couldn't have said it any better.Shelly Caetano wrote: ↑07 Jun 2019, 08:19 Often, when constant dangers surround the main character there is a sense of thrill and intrigue. Sometimes, it makes the overall book more compelling; especially when it comes to how the protagonist navigates such danger. This is not the case with Cynthia. The constant danger that surrounds Cynthia points to the characters flaws and incompetence. Instead of thrilling, I found it to be a constant source of frustration. It did not create a filling of thrill or intrigue for me, but rather a deep sense of dissatisfaction.
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Like you've been cheated out of something promising or worthwhile.Shelly Caetano wrote: ↑07 Jun 2019, 08:19 Often, when constant dangers surround the main character there is a sense of thrill and intrigue. Sometimes, it makes the overall book more compelling; especially when it comes to how the protagonist navigates such danger. This is not the case with Cynthia. The constant danger that surrounds Cynthia points to the characters flaws and incompetence. Instead of thrilling, I found it to be a constant source of frustration. It did not create a filling of thrill or intrigue for me, but rather a deep sense of dissatisfaction.
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