What did you think about Cody?
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Re: What did you think about Cody?
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Well said Kio! It's almost like an accessory if you turn someone over to an abuser, knowing full well what will happen next.kio wrote:I personally did not like the guy. I don't care how much you care about someone, you're no better than the abusive scum if you know about it and get "conflicted" about it (or whateever you'd call it), because of your retarded "sense of honor." Let's just say I'm glad I never lived in that era or was ever Suzanne. Cody was my second least favorite character. Which is weird since it seemed like we were supposed to "fall in love" with him along with Suzanne.
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Good writers make you feel. Even though Cody was ridiculous before and I did not like him for it towards the beginning, I think it takes a good writer to create these feelings for readers.
I have mixed feelings about how Cody treated Lame Bird. I think it was right that he didn't marry her since he didn't love her. That would be living a fake life. However, I didn't like that he was stringing her along either. He probably should've separated himself a little bit more, rather than have her do all the "womanly duties" while he did the "manly duties". It looked like they were already married.
Great question, gali!
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Thank you.hsimone wrote:I agree with many here. I appreciate the author's ability to create a complex situation - honor vs. love. However....I do not like the fact that Cody wanted to give Suzanne up to someone who will rape, torture, and potentially kill her. That doesn't make sense to me. If he ran away with her in the first place, then all the other stuff wouldn't have happened. Like gali said, though, I do believe he redeemed himself at the end, and it all worked out for the best.
Good writers make you feel. Even though Cody was ridiculous before and I did not like him for it towards the beginning, I think it takes a good writer to create these feelings for readers.
I have mixed feelings about how Cody treated Lame Bird. I think it was right that he didn't marry her since he didn't love her. That would be living a fake life. However, I didn't like that he was stringing her along either. He probably should've separated himself a little bit more, rather than have her do all the "womanly duties" while he did the "manly duties". It looked like they were already married.
Great question, gali!
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İ agree that great writers are able to spin a story in such a way that it makes readers think and feel conflicting ideas.hsimone wrote:I agree with many here. I appreciate the author's ability to create a complex situation - honor vs. love. However....I do not like the fact that Cody wanted to give Suzanne up to someone who will rape, torture, and potentially kill her. That doesn't make sense to me. If he ran away with her in the first place, then all the other stuff wouldn't have happened. Like gali said, though, I do believe he redeemed himself at the end, and it all worked out for the best.
Good writers make you feel. Even though Cody was ridiculous before and I did not like him for it towards the beginning, I think it takes a good writer to create these feelings for readers.
I have mixed feelings about how Cody treated Lame Bird. I think it was right that he didn't marry her since he didn't love her. That would be living a fake life. However, I didn't like that he was stringing her along either. He probably should've separated himself a little bit more, rather than have her do all the "womanly duties" while he did the "manly duties". It looked like they were already married.
Great question, gali!
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Excellent point! I would also argue that character flaws tend to be stronger or more solid than their virtues. Many authors that I read have this unfortunate habit of making their "good" characters look like saints and their "bad" characters have little or nothing in terms of a redeeming quality. The simple fact that Cody is well-developed enough for some to hate him, some to like him, and others to feel conflicted about him throughout the novel really shows the amount of thought that went into portraying him as a realistic character.hsimone wrote:Good writers make you feel. Even though Cody was ridiculous before and I did not like him for it towards the beginning, I think it takes a good writer to create these feelings for readers.
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I just felt he was confused between what he thinks as right and what he feels is right.
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I agree with you 100%. I believe, love is the most honorable feeling. No honor of the world should make us do what Cody did to Suzanne. Trust is the key factor in love; if someone can throw me to a mean fellow for the sake of any honor, then I don't wish to be with that person.bookowlie wrote:I still wouldn't want to be stuck with Cody. Even if he loved me, I would always wonder if he would turn me over to someone who would abuse and kill me!
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I think that Cody's morals where centered on what best helped himself in each situation. Which is why he strung Lame Bird for so long even though he knew that he wouldn't marry her.
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I am not sure I understand why Cody would even consider giving Suzanne to the chief. The tribe saw him as nothing but a white man in an Indian body. They didn't trust him. He didn't trust them. Why would he want to give them anything?
I think he absolutely led Lame Bird on. He should have told her about how he felt a long time ago instead of letting her take care of him and basically acting like he was his wife without the physical relationship.
I think Cody does turn into a complex character in the second half of the book and starts to make more sense. His guilt and constant struggle to fit in to somewhere make him more realistic.
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