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The Dream (spoilers)

Discuss the November 2015 book of the month, Ruby's Choice by D.F. Jones

Re: The Dream (spoilers)

Post Number:#16 by Scott
» 05 Dec 2015, 20:24

I agree with the others, first @"B3cca 3ll3r", that as a rule I don't care for the "and then they woke up" type of plot device.

I think it works at least arguably well in this story for two reasons.

1 - It isn't thrown in until the epilogue, so you can still appreciate the whole story without the dream twist. What's really usually annoying about the "and then they woke up" is it acts as a crucial part of the resolution of the conflict in the actual story arc. In other words, it becomes a cop out deus ex machina, which it wasn't in this story.

2 - Similarly, the fact that it was all a dream doesn't really change the story that much. This is because it's less of just a 'dream' and more of a premonition by someone who can see the future. While such premonitions allow Ruby to occasionally change the future, most of the events still come to pass exactly as 'dreamed' or to a similar result. In this way, the plot device behaves more like a time machine plot device in which Ruby goes back in time and slightly corrects some of her mistakes after having already made them in a context of still partial fatalism.
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Re: The Dream (spoilers)

Post Number:#17 by gali
» 05 Dec 2015, 22:50

Scott wrote:I agree with the others, first @"B3cca 3ll3r", that as a rule I don't care for the "and then they woke up" type of plot device.

I think it works at least arguably well in this story for two reasons.

1 - It isn't thrown in until the epilogue, so you can still appreciate the whole story without the dream twist. What's really usually annoying about the "and then they woke up" is it acts as a crucial part of the resolution of the conflict in the actual story arc. In other words, it becomes a cop out deus ex machina, which it wasn't in this story.

2 - Similarly, the fact that it was all a dream doesn't really change the story that much. This is because it's less of just a 'dream' and more of a premonition by someone who can see the future. While such premonitions allow Ruby to occasionally change the future, most of the events still come to pass exactly as 'dreamed' or to a similar result. In this way, the plot device behaves more like a time machine plot device in which Ruby goes back in time and slightly corrects some of her mistakes after having already made them in a context of still partial fatalism.


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Re: The Dream (spoilers)

Post Number:#18 by Christinar81
» 29 Dec 2015, 17:11

I generally don't like books or tv shows that use the "dream" ending but in this case I'm glad. I was a fan of Brent but the way he was portrayed with the jealous and possessiveness made him look bad. The dream reverses all that and enables him to become a good guy.
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Re: The Dream (spoilers)

Post Number:#19 by Paliden
» 24 Jan 2016, 11:10

Generally speaking, I'm not fond of books or movies that end with it all being a dream. But in this case, the author managed to pull it off.
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Re: The Dream (spoilers)

Post Number:#20 by kimmyschemy06
» 03 Mar 2016, 08:00

I think it made the story more.. charming? After all, Ruby was the Dreamer..
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