Poet grammar

This is the place for readers of poetry. Discuss poetry and literary art. You can also discuss music here, including lyrics. Also, you can discuss poets themselves, in addition to poetry.
Post Reply
Posts: 29
Joined: 24 Aug 2016, 18:49
2017 Reading Goal: 20
2017 Reading Goal Completion: 10
Currently Reading: <a href="http://forums.onlinebookclub.org/shelve ... 6157">30th Century: Escape</a>
Bookshelf Size: 34
Reading Device: B00I15SB16

Poet grammar

Post by imyhearu » 27 Oct 2017, 22:16

Do you usually focus on your grammar when making a poetry or music?

Shayaree Chanda
Posts: 11
Joined: 27 Oct 2017, 11:29
Currently Reading: <a href="http://forums.onlinebookclub.org/shelve ... p?id="></a>
Bookshelf Size: 2
Reviewer Page: onlinebookclub.org/reviews/by-shayaree-chanda.html
Latest Review: <a href="http://forums.onlinebookclub.org/viewto ... 14&t=50943" class="postlink">"Lemoncella Cocktail" by Rene Natan</a>

Post by Shayaree Chanda » 28 Oct 2017, 00:35

I have read a lot of poetry where the poet never uses proper grammar to express himself. I don't think grammar is necessary to focus if you can put your thoughts clearly without proper grammar rules being followed. But yes, basic grammar is needed otherwise..
"Let's eat grandma"
"Let's eat, grandma"
Two different meaning just by adding a comma..

Posts: 36
Joined: 30 Oct 2017, 05:32
Currently Reading: <a href="http://forums.onlinebookclub.org/shelve ... p?id="></a>
Bookshelf Size: 33

Post by Pknjo » 31 Oct 2017, 08:48

I usually do until it hinders the piece's progress.

User avatar
Member of the Month
Posts: 1293
Joined: 30 Oct 2017, 04:36
2017 Reading Goal: 0
Bookshelf Size: 0
Location: Eastern UK

Post by Lincolnshirelass » 02 Nov 2017, 07:20

I certainly think it's okay to be playful or imaginative with grammar in poetry, but especially if one is using something approaching a traditional form there should probably at least be a nod in its direction.
An Eye for an Eye only ends up making the whole world blind.

Mahatma Gandhi

Posts: 36
Joined: 02 Nov 2017, 09:02
Currently Reading: <a href="http://forums.onlinebookclub.org/shelve ... p?id="></a>
Bookshelf Size: 23

Post by Gabyap » 02 Nov 2017, 15:52

Yeah, but of course to a point

User avatar
Posts: 101
Joined: 10 Oct 2017, 15:58
Currently Reading: <a href="http://forums.onlinebookclub.org/shelve ... d=7632">To the Lighthouse</a>
Bookshelf Size: 318
Reviewer Page: onlinebookclub.org/reviews/by-dustinpbrown.html
Latest Review: David Tate : Origins: by Carolyn E. Hood-Kourdache

Post by DustinPBrown » 02 Nov 2017, 17:09

Grammar's needed so that the reader doesn't get lost. Depends on how lost you want your reader to be, I guess. I've had poems with no punctuation or capitilization, but the norm is to have grammatical sentences broken up by the line breaks.

Posts: 67
Joined: 16 Nov 2017, 06:33
2018 Reading Goal: 5
2017 Reading Goal: 0
2018 Reading Goal Completion: 60
Currently Reading: <a href="http://forums.onlinebookclub.org/shelve ... 0046">Last Seen</a>
Bookshelf Size: 26
Location: Cameroon

Post by tmazonga » 03 Jan 2018, 18:59

Yes. Grammar is very important. In fact, it`s indispensable.

User avatar
Posts: 328
Joined: 07 Jan 2018, 20:30
2018 Reading Goal: 50
2018 Reading Goal Completion: 18
Favorite Author: <a href="/shelves/author.php?a=2388">Marissa Meyer</a>
Favorite Book: <a href="http://forums.onlinebookclub.org/shelve ... 46410">The Wendy</a>
Currently Reading:
Bookshelf Size: 34
Reviewer Page: onlinebookclub.org/reviews/by-spasciuti.html
Latest Review: L.I.F.E. in the 23rd Century by Jason R. Richter
fav_author_id: 2388

Post by SPasciuti » 13 Jan 2018, 19:31

I can't imagine that poetry worth reading would ever dispense with proper grammar. Granted, there are of course instances in which certain grammatical things may be omitted, but I've often found that in the majority of cases, removing a lot of the grammar rules in order to write a poem leaves the poem devoid of developed meaning and proper flow. At the end of the day, grammar is still exceptionally important and really shouldn't be ignored because someone didn't know better or simply didn't feel like using it.

User avatar
Posts: 20
Joined: 30 Jan 2018, 18:29
Currently Reading: <a href="http://forums.onlinebookclub.org/shelve ... 50213">The Prisoner and the Chaplain</a>
Bookshelf Size: 2
Reviewer Page: onlinebookclub.org/reviews/by-pauljames-03.html
Latest Review: Who Told You That You Were Naked? by William Combs

Post by pauljames_03 » 17 Feb 2018, 11:32

I take consideration in grammar in poetry. However, I tend to focus more on the rhythm, rhyme, and meter of the piece.

User avatar
Yung Senpai
Posts: 28
Joined: 26 Oct 2017, 01:52
2018 Reading Goal: 0
2017 Reading Goal: 0
2018 Reading Goal Completion: 0
Favorite Book: Lolita
Currently Reading:
Bookshelf Size: 19
Location: Wishing I was at somewhere else

Post by Yung Senpai » Yesterday, 19:50

I first write without thinking too deeply about it, just to get the flow going. When I read again I edit it in the process, separating the paragraphs, adding or removing sentences and I make sure the grammar is as best as possible.

Just like a drawing, once you start sketching very loosely just to feel the form, and when you have it, you work on the lineart and focus on perspective, anatomy, proportions and etc.
The pain I feel now is the happiness I had before, that's the deal. - C.S Lewis

Post Reply

Return to “Poetry & Music”