The "Oxford comma" explained

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Re: The "Oxford comma" explained

Post by Gingerbo0ks » 11 Apr 2017, 13:23

So just to clarify something..We shouldn't be putting the coma before the and? I was given many errors for use of commas but surprisingly was not given an error for a sentence I wrote where I omitted a coma and just put "and".


Is this a UK/USA thing? I would like to think I haven't forgotten how to correctly structure a sentence. However if there is a rule I would like to know so as not to make the same mistake again. It has been drilled into me to put commas before connectives such as "and" and "but" you see.
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Post by Amagine » 11 Apr 2017, 13:33

Gingerbo0ks wrote:So just to clarify something..We shouldn't be putting the coma before the and? I was given many errors for use of commas but surprisingly was not given an error for a sentence I wrote where I omitted a coma and just put "and".


Is this a UK/USA thing? I would like to think I haven't forgotten how to correctly structure a sentence. However if there is a rule I would like to know so as not to make the same mistake again. It has been drilled into me to put commas before connectives such as "and" and "but" you see.
I remember reading that some cases you can put a comma before "but." I've never heard or seen anyone put one before "and."

I'm always marked down because of commas too. I've never been marked down for not having one before a connective. I usually just add a connective word and continue the sentence. I don't ever use commas in those instances.

I'm also interested in hearing someone give a full explanation on this matter. It's very interesting how grammar is so different around the world. It opens up the conversation on whether or not it's bad grammar to write the way you were taught somewhere else.
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Post by Gingerbo0ks » 11 Apr 2017, 13:41

So I am correct in thinking one shouldn't be putting commas before an "and" if they want to avoid being marked down.
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Post by mehmetakkoch » 11 Apr 2017, 14:22

Sometimes we omit seeing some basic rules about what we know very well like grammar. Internet can not always be the best and most effective source for reaching information. Although It sometimes becomes a library, it could be a garbage for us in our short time.

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Post by Amagine » 11 Apr 2017, 14:25

Gingerbo0ks wrote:So I am correct in thinking one shouldn't be putting commas before an "and" if they want to avoid being marked down.
I would think so. I've never been marked down for not having a comma before "and." So I'm guessing that if you don't have one, it should be fine.
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Post by Aimy » 11 Apr 2017, 14:55

Duly noted. :)

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Post by Dh_ » 11 Apr 2017, 18:58

I am shocked. I've always used it the first way you mentioned and I thought the other way was wrong. I'm really confused now because in school I was always taught to use it after the 'and'. Grammar is a complicated thing...

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Post by KlareAllison » 14 Oct 2017, 03:34

I would agree with @PashaRu that a stringent adherence to writing (punctuation) rules does stifle literary creativity.
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Post by CatInTheHat » 14 Oct 2017, 15:57

Gingerbo0ks wrote:So just to clarify something..We shouldn't be putting the coma before the and? I was given many errors for use of commas but surprisingly was not given an error for a sentence I wrote where I omitted a coma and just put "and".
Keep in mind that editors don't point out every single error, especially if there are many. If there are more than 4-5, I typically only mention the 4-5 biggest issues.
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Post by meteku4 » 14 Oct 2017, 16:44

I am always used to the comma before the 'and'. Thanks for the enlightenment.

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Post by Dolor » 18 Nov 2017, 08:03

I know about the Oxford comma and I wonder why some folks put comma before the article "and" when it is not necessary. But the worst is I even saw others putting comma after the conjunction "and". ^_^ ?

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Post by Dael Reader » 14 Jun 2018, 17:24

I use the Chicago Manual of Style, which suggests that use of the serial comma (Oxford comma) is a matter of choice. I prefer to use it because then you are never confused. And since I'm an American, I call it the Harvard comma.

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