"It must require bravery to be honest all the time"

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Re: "It must require bravery to be honest all the time"

Post by Yemurai » 09 Aug 2017, 08:14

It absolutely requires bravery to be honest, because there are somethings you would want to keep to yourself and for you to reveal that, it takes courage.

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Post by Mallory Whitaker » 15 Dec 2017, 16:20

I think it can take bravery to be all the things that are mentioned as the ideal for the other factions, but perhaps not Erudite, although I'm sure there is an instance I'm not thinking of when it would require bravery. I think I'd rather live in Candor than Dauntless - I prefer directness to backstabbing.

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Post by Helen_Combe » 21 Mar 2018, 11:41

I think telling the truth all the time requires a thick skin.
I suppose a husband giving an honest reply to “Does my bum look big in this?” must need a certain amount of courage.
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Post by BookishCoffeeBlog » 10 Jun 2018, 16:18

I think this a very interesting question. I do think that it takes a certain amount of bravery to be completely honest. These people need to be aware of the repercussions of their words. I think both Candor and Dauntless are brave in their own way. I would not want to live in a society like Candor. I think of myself as a very honest person but I don't think I would like living in a place where everyone continues to say what is on their minds. I don't think that would be a particularly relaxing community to live in. I am under the belief that some things are better left unsaid, especially if they are going to harm another.

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Post by holsam_87 » 22 Jun 2018, 01:38

RussetDivinity wrote:
11 Jul 2014, 17:17
gali wrote:I think it must require bravery to be honest all the time, but Candor took honesty to the extreme.
I this was one of the points of the book, that each faction took itself to whatever extreme it could be. Dauntless took bravery to the extreme by becoming fearless rather than courageous; Abnegation isn't so much selfless as self-denying; Amity is peaceful even if keeping the peace requires drugging the population; Erudite prizes knowledge over all else; Candor took honesty so far that they didn't even recognize that small lies can be harmless or even helpful.

I think Dauntless is the braver of the two, simply because sometimes telling the truth can be a way of giving in. If the truth would harm someone, then it can be braver to lie. If I had to choose one of these two, I would probably choose Dauntless, because I'm a fiction writer and an actor by nature; I couldn't be truthful all the time. My being is set up around lies.
I agree with what you are saying. Honestly, I think I would choose Candor, mainly because I'm not likely to physically act and I can be very blunt.
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