Forum Navigation: Forum Index » Book of the Month » Book of the month » "Divergent" by Veronica Roth

Want FREE books and FREE Amazon gift cards?

Each day we announce via email a book that is either FREE or on a temporary sale at a great discount price. These are not your average free books. These are incredible insider deals on well-rated books. OnlineBookClub.org is where tomorrow's bestsellers are born. We also give away over $1,000 per month of free Amazon gift cards in free daily giveaways, exclusively to those signed up to these announcements! Hurry, sign up free now:

Sorry, this proves you are human.

"It must require bravery to be honest all the time"

Discuss the June 2014 book of the month Divergent by Veronica Roth. While only Divergent--the first book of the series--is the book of the month, feel free to use this subforum to discuss the rest of the series or to talk about the movies, but make sure not to post spoilers unless noted in the topic title.

Re: "It must require bravery to be honest all the time"

Post Number:#31 by mkostecki11
» 16 Oct 2014, 17:38

I think Candor is the more brave faction of the two. Dauntless bravery deals more with individual struggles. It takes courage to jump off a roof, but once that's done a couple times, it turns into less of an act of bravery, and more of just a thrill, because the individual knows that the next time they'll be okay. However, Candor bravery never diminishes because each time they tell the truth, it's to a new person who may react differently and they never know how their honesty will be received. Each individual time they risk the chance of angering or hurting someone else. I also believe when you have the knowledge that you might hurt someone else rather than just yourself, it takes more courage to take the risk of telling the truth.
User avatar
mkostecki11
 
Posts: 17
Joined: 15 Sep 2014, 20:22
Bookshelf Size: 0 books

View Reviewer Page
2017 Reading Goal: 0 Books
Goal Completion: 0%

Did you know?
 
Once you join the forums and log in you will get to enjoy a very ad-reduced experience. It's easy and completely free!

Re: "It must require bravery to be honest all the time"

Post Number:#32 by hollirm
» 20 Oct 2014, 00:58

In our world(reality), it takes bravery to be honest because so many lie. But because in this book, everyone 'tells' the truth and are honest, I don't think that it takes bravery to conform to society, which is exactly would everyone is doing in this book. In their world, it takes bravery to stand up and fight back, to lie to protect.
User avatar
hollirm
 
Posts: 65
Joined: 19 Oct 2014, 00:49
Bookshelf Size: 1 books

View Reviewer Page
2017 Reading Goal: 0 Books
Goal Completion: 0%

Re: "It must require bravery to be honest all the time"

Post Number:#33 by lindac1_98
» 23 Oct 2014, 17:54

At times it can be very brave to be completely honest and at other times it can be just a sense of self-righteousness, or just a reason to mean or cruel to another person. It also be said to be true that being selfless could be brave, but that too can be another reason to be self-righteous. Almost like look at how good a person I am because I put you before myself.
User avatar
lindac1_98
 
Posts: 19
Joined: 02 Oct 2014, 14:40
Bookshelf Size: 0 books

View Reviewer Page
2017 Reading Goal: 0 Books
Goal Completion: 0%

Re: "It must require bravery to be honest all the time"

Post Number:#34 by athyvip
» 30 Oct 2014, 18:17

Honestly, I found Candor ridiculous.

I completely agree that truth requires bravery, but if something would hurt someone if you told them but have no consequences if you didn't tell them, would you really tell them? What about the concept of a "little white lie", a lie told to make someone feel better that won't have a lasting effect? While telling the truth has strong points, it also has weak points. Please don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that lying is always the answer, I'm just saying that you need to be able to make the choice in the moment instead of being forced to tell the truth.
User avatar
athyvip
 
Posts: 9
Joined: 30 Oct 2014, 18:01
Bookshelf Size: 0 books

View Reviewer Page
2017 Reading Goal: 0 Books
Goal Completion: 0%

Re: "It must require bravery to be honest all the time"

Post Number:#35 by Hadiqa
» 02 Nov 2014, 04:04

I think it really is an interesting quote. The reason is that honesty in other words means truth and telling the right thing has been a problem for all of us in our lives, we are afraid of being scolded, punished etc and therefore we are not honest. However, being brave might also mean that you can tolerate the scoldings other give you and therefore not tell them the truth so, in this case, it is a negative.

Candor is like glass, clear, blunt and true and they are used to it.
User avatar
Hadiqa
 
Posts: 227
Joined: 02 Nov 2014, 03:53
Favorite Author: Infinite
Favorite Book: Hundreds
Currently Reading: How The Wolf Lost Her Heart by Sarah
Bookshelf Size: 0 books

View Reviewer Page
2017 Reading Goal: 0 Books
Goal Completion: 0%

Re: "It must require bravery to be honest all the time"

Post Number:#36 by 3chicnP
» 23 Dec 2014, 22:26

"It must require bravery to be honest all the time" I half agree with it. At times it does but other times it just comes out. I'm not sure about Conner but I'm a sarcastic person. I just say the truth a lot and it just comes out.
I am a free spirit
like mafia
User avatar
3chicnP
 
Posts: 202
Joined: 22 Dec 2014, 15:06
Bookshelf Size: 2 books

View Reviewer Page
2017 Reading Goal: 0 Books
Goal Completion: 0%

Re: "It must require bravery to be honest all the time"

Post Number:#37 by colemaba
» 31 Dec 2014, 21:45

Is it really brave to constantly tell the truth if that is how you are raised? If you grow up always telling the truth it is just common nature, but if you do not grow up that way I think it is brave. I wouldn't want to live in a society where everyone constantly tells the truth though. Sometimes its best to keep some things inside
colemaba's Latest Review: "Angel of Destiny" by T.L.Adams
User avatar
colemaba
 
Posts: 147
Joined: 07 Jul 2014, 17:06
Favorite Author: I can never decide
Favorite Book: the hinger games
Currently Reading: Enders Game
Bookshelf Size: 37 books

View Reviewer Page
2017 Reading Goal: 0 Books
Goal Completion: 0%

Re: "It must require bravery to be honest all the time"

Post Number:#38 by gervaisk
» 15 Jan 2015, 16:57

I know the world we live in would require bravery to be honest all the time. We are taught that we need to disguise are true feelings in order to please others or not to hurt their feelings. It is sometimes not acceptable to give our honest opinion. I would love to live in a world where we can be open and honest all the time but it would require us to be brave.
User avatar
gervaisk
 
Posts: 28
Joined: 27 Dec 2014, 19:59
Bookshelf Size: 11 books

View Reviewer Page
2017 Reading Goal: 0 Books
Goal Completion: 0%

Re: "It must require bravery to be honest all the time"

Post Number:#39 by NothingOkGrey
» 21 Feb 2015, 18:32

Dauntless bravery is often just recklessness, like jumping off the train or purposely antagonizing others to fight. Telling the truth does require bravery but if you were born into Candor it would just be normal because it's all you know.
User avatar
NothingOkGrey
 
Posts: 22
Joined: 20 Feb 2015, 14:35
Location: Connecticut
Favorite Author: Daniel Handler
Favorite Book: Don Quixote
Currently Reading: The Late Starters Orchestra
Bookshelf Size: 51 books

View Reviewer Page
2017 Reading Goal: 0 Books
Goal Completion: 0%

Re: "It must require bravery to be honest all the time"

Post Number:#40 by ChelseaDeview
» 28 Feb 2015, 11:41

I agree that it requires bravery to be honest all the time. When telling someone the truth, you run the risk of that person disliking you for the rest of your life. You may also run the risk of them wanting your opinion on everything. Which can be both a good thing and a bad thing.
User avatar
ChelseaDeview
 
Posts: 2
Joined: 28 Feb 2015, 03:50
Bookshelf Size: 1 books
2017 Reading Goal: 0 Books
Goal Completion: 0%

Re: "It must require bravery to be honest all the time"

Post Number:#41 by csimmons032
» 09 Mar 2015, 16:19

This is a very interesting topic. I do think it requires a certain amount of bravery to be honest all the time. people are always afraid of being honest, myself included in certain situations, because they don't want to hurt people's feelings. Especially if those people are your friends. Sometimes it's easier to be honest with strangers, but you never want to hurt your friend or your family. However, being honest with someone you care about can make your relationship stronger because they know they can trust you in tough situations. If you are completely honest all of the time, then you never know what type of reaction you will get from people. That is what makes it brave. I don't know if I could live in Candor. I can respect the way that they live, but it would be tough to be in an environment where everyone is so brutally honest all of the time. I am not saying that I agree with lying, but sometimes the truth can be hard to hear. I do think there is bravery in being selfless too. It takes a lot of courage to not consider what others might think of you, and just help anyone in need. I definitely have a lot of respect for people who can put their own feelings aside and do what it takes to help others. In my mind, there is always bravery involved when you are standing up for what you believe in.
csimmons032's Latest Review: "Transforming Faith" by Fred Howard
User avatar
csimmons032
 
Posts: 683
Joined: 27 Feb 2015, 21:49
Location: California
Favorite Author: Stephenie Meyer
Favorite Book: Twilight and The Last Song
Currently Reading: Bluewater Walkabout
Bookshelf Size: 715 books

View Reviewer Page
2017 Reading Goal: 0 Books
Goal Completion: 0%

Re: "It must require bravery to be honest all the time"

Post Number:#42 by Jesska6029
» 11 Mar 2015, 16:27

It definitely requires bravery to be honest. A lot of people avoid being honest because it is sometimes a lot harder to be honest. Being honest can hurt others, and it can make the honest person an outsider in certain ways.

Sometimes we do not need honesty. Sometimes we need to tell or hear a white lie instead. I wouldn't have the bravery to live in Candor. I am a pretty honest person, but I do not like hurting people just for the sake of being honest.
“Some failure in life is inevitable. It is impossible to live without failing at something, unless you live so cautiously that you might as well not have lived at all—in which case, you fail by default.” ~J.K. Rowling
User avatar
Jesska6029
 
Posts: 544
Joined: 28 Feb 2015, 09:21
Location: New England
Favorite Author: J.K. Rowling
Favorite Book: The Harry Potter series
Currently Reading: It and Mr. Mercedes
Bookshelf Size: 272 books

View Reviewer Page
2017 Reading Goal: 0 Books
Goal Completion: 0%

Re: "It must require bravery to be honest all the time"

Post Number:#43 by gatorgirl_823
» 31 Mar 2015, 13:01

Each faction was extreme is displaying their said trait - whether fearless or honest or selfless, etc. One would have to be brave if required to be honest in all circumstances, however tact and kindness should be included with honesty but the Candor faction was more interested in just be smart and outspoken it seemed.
gatorgirl_823's Latest Review: "Slam" by Tash McAdam
User avatar
gatorgirl_823
 
Posts: 65
Joined: 15 Mar 2015, 10:01
Bookshelf Size: 24 books

View Reviewer Page
2017 Reading Goal: 0 Books
Goal Completion: 0%

Re: "It must require bravery to be honest all the time"

Post Number:#44 by steinhm
» 02 Apr 2015, 04:39

I think honestly bravery can come in different forms. I think both factions are brave and I don't think you can say one faction is braver than the other. Dauntless is more fearless and more likely to head into battle without a second thought, however, to in candor to always have to tell the truth no matter what takes a different kind of bravery. Knowing something you say might hurt someone close to you but feeling the morality to tell them anyway is their own kind of bravery.

I don't think I can say which one is ultimately "braver" even though on the surface it might appear to be dauntless. Everyone has their own bravery within them and just because it isn't outward and in your face doesn't mean it isn't there.
User avatar
steinhm
 
Posts: 60
Joined: 02 Apr 2015, 02:13
Currently Reading: The Silent Boy
Bookshelf Size: 19 books

View Reviewer Page
2017 Reading Goal: 0 Books
Goal Completion: 0%

Re: "It must require bravery to be honest all the time"

Post Number:#45 by rebeccamcivor0202
» 09 Apr 2015, 22:14

Personally I think others may see it as a brave act but they do not. To choose Candor as their faction a person must already be predisposed to telling truth and pure honesty should come natural therefore how could it be brave? And as for it being hard to live there with everyone being so truthful all the time, it would only seem difficult to those who don't belong there and live by the principles followed by those in Candor. Personally, I would find it very refreshing to live in a society that has all out in the open and everyone knows everything about one another.
User avatar
rebeccamcivor0202
 
Posts: 14
Joined: 05 Feb 2015, 07:55
Bookshelf Size: 0 books

View Reviewer Page
2017 Reading Goal: 0 Books
Goal Completion: 0%

PreviousNext

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest

Navigation

Return Home » Book of the Month » Book of the month » "Divergent" by Veronica Roth