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emilywagner wrote:Personally, my family comes before everything else I absolutely could not imagine having to abandon them forever. I really appreciated Tris's dedication to her family as well, despite the societal rules. It seemed representative of the lengths most of the people I know would go to protect and be with their families.
I must say though the idea of faction before blood is not all that foreign either. Once many people are kicked out of the nest you will see them select new ways of life and new people who may treat them better than their biological family. In a way their new faction becomes their new "blood" so it is an odd concept to think about.
I think you're right about that
-- 19 Mar 2015, 21:53 --
Faction before blood means to me in opinion means putting society first before your family, friends and personal life
it's a interesting concept because it's almost the same as serving a royal family needs instead of thinking about your own
Thank you for asking this question
Paliden wrote:I agree. God first, family second. But then how do we define family? I think that is the question of "Faction before Blood". They are saying that if you belong in that faction, then you can't relate to your family members like you can to the other faction members. I know that when you go through trials and difficult circumstances (i.e. training), you form a bond with those people that in a way makes them family. I think the military is a good example of this in our day and age. You are trained that your brothers-in-arms are everything. It is ingrained into your core. And that isn't necessarily a bad thing. So I understand both sides of it, I guess.
In my personal life, I believe God first and family second, too. I've taught my kids that God would always be there for them. Then I teach them to put family above others. When others turn against you, your family will still be there. Who picks you up when your hanging on by s tring? Who bails you out when you're in trouble? Who fights your injustices along side you?
However, in Divergent, they seem to expect the faction to replace these qualities of family but only to an extent. While training for your faction, you can still fail and get thrown to the factionless. With such high stakes, the competition during training was cutthroat. You could not certainly trust anyone.
From another perspective, consider how hurt Tris's father felt when both his children chose other factions. He seemed to feel betrayed. He expected his children to continue in his faction, as his family. He didn't continue to harbor ill will, though. Later, Dauntless under control of the serum attacked Tris's family and former faction. She sought them out to make sure they would be protected.
I think their society states faction before blood, but it doesn't seem to be a belief held in the highest regard. I think the military comparison is probably the thought behind this belief, but our military follows it much better.
I was totally shocked when reading the book to discover once you joined a faction you were separated from your blood family. I really struggled to wrap my head around the fact to be honest.
CrescentMoon wrote:I really don't like this idea of faction before blood. In my opinion, it's something that a tyrannical government would want its citizens to believe in, to give up their family and become loyal to them. Family ties usually are supposed to be very strong, and I don't know many people who wouldn't do anything for their family. That is a threat to the government so I feel like the message of faction before blood is a way to brainwash people into believing that their loyalty needs to be to the factions and society at all times, that way they are easier to manipulate and control.
I couldn't agree more! You stated that perfectly.