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Re: Writing explicit stuff...

Post by Rebeccaej » 21 Nov 2017, 00:28

MLove83 wrote:Great topic/question! I agree with those who said it should only be included if it adds something to the story. Then again, I think that's true of every scene. Filler of ANY kind makes for a very boring read.

I'm surprised how many people said, "If it can be left out, it should." Why?! Can you imagine making that same statement if we were discussing a humorous scene, or one which might make the reader cry??
Well, yes, actually. If a character is joking all the time in a way that doesn't actually reveal interesting things about them, it gets really annoying. A scene feels cheap if it's designed to make you cry with pointless, unearned melodrama.

ANY scene that can be taken out without affecting the story should be taken out.

I don't think the problem is necessarily* that sexual or violent material needs to be deleted more than other types. The problem is that some writers treat it like an exception to the rule that everything needs to contribute to the story. They think "fights are exciting, so I'll just toss in a bunch of fists flying around." That stuff should go.

But if the character's signature sex move or fighting tactic reveals something interesting about the character, world or situation, then sure, describe it in detail, the same way you'd include a detailed description of a meal, if the food revealed something interesting.


*I say necessarily because I do think that, if an author writes something that's likely to hurt, deeply upset or offend a significant portion of their audience, they have a duty to make it worth their while. Don't toss in a graphic, horrifying torture scene on page 50, with no warning that it's coming, unless you're prepared to use that scene to say something significant, something that leaves the reader thinking, "I'm glad I stuck that out."

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Post by MLove83 » 21 Nov 2017, 01:00

I definitely agree that any scene that doesn't add something meaningful to the story should be left out. I saw that several other people said that, too. But I also saw several people saying things along the lines of "If it can be left out, it should." Period. That, to me, is different than saying, "If it doesn't contribute something of significance to the story, it should be left out." It left me wondering if they would respond the same way if we were discussing using something more innocent, such as humor.

Perhaps I'm contributing meaning to their words that isn't there, at least in the case of some. But I'm willing to bet that at least some people feel that neither sex nor violence is ever needed in a story, and I disagree with that. A book is worthless if it doesn't entertain people, provoke emotions, inspire them, and/or get them talking. Sex and violence are useful in making those things happen. I'm not saying they're the best tools, and I'm not saying they're automatically entertaining. I'm also not saying that there is anything wrong with preferring not to use them. I'm just surprised at how many seem unwilling to consider it.
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Post by Sushan » 19 Jun 2018, 14:44

you can out whatever you like in your fiction since it is your work. what you have to think about is the targeted audience and whether it is suitable for that audience
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Post by echoesofmj » 28 Jun 2018, 10:42

Since I've grown up, I began to add more explicit stuff in my stories. I don't believe that everything needs to be one hundred percent graphic, but I think that some things need to be said just the way they are. I think that sometimes, not using euphemism makes the scene hit harder the reader. So if that is the point, I wouldn't go for that.

It really depends on the situation. Sometimes, I feel that there is going to be "action" going down, let's say. But it would add nothing to the story to describe the scene explicitly. And other times, it would, because you can see something develop between two characters or it could help the plot more forward, or it serves the story. If it doesn't really, then I usually don't go for explicit scenes.

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Post by jjmainor » 01 Sep 2018, 00:50

NSUSA wrote:
13 Nov 2007, 19:25
When you write, do you ever write explicit stuff? I'm think of things like sex scenes, profanity, and violence? Do you use euphemisms when these things come up in your stories?
I'm not really a fan of sex when I read so I don't really write it...Maybe I'll have characters who do have sex, but I'll try to write it tastefully, maybe keeping it PG. Profanity, I'm not against, but I find myself using it less and less with each story. As a sort of experiment, I set rules with one series that I wouldn't even make any religious references, so I wouldn't let my characters say "damn!" or "oh god!" and all that sort of talk.

With my graphic novels, I'm mixed. My first contained a few mild sex scenes...eye candy more than pornography. The last one, I felt it was in character for everyone to swear at each other, so I decided from the beginning to settle for the adult tag...after that decision, I threw in more of the hard- R rated sex scenes and nudity. For the most part, my GNs are family dramas, so I'm extrememly nervous/uncomfortable reaching for the adult tag when the stories contain characters under 18.

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