Pastors or Priests?

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Lunastella wrote: 22 Dec 2020, 19:33
Ahbed Nadir wrote: 22 Dec 2020, 07:18 I think it depends on the culture the religion is based in. Different cultures have different titles for different positions.
I understand. But as far as I know, all Catholics call their leaders "Father" or "Priest". Of course, the words change according to the language, but they mean the same. Pastors are far as I know, are for Protestant churches.
Well I think in this case, the author is simply calling his spiritual leader by the name he feels suits him.
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Lunastella wrote: 18 Dec 2020, 12:09 Does anyone else find it strange that the author talks about a pastor when he was raised a Catholic?
I quote: "When I confronted my pastor with this observation he said to me, “most people don’t think that deeply”(p. 3).
I was raised a Catholic too and we refer to religious leaders as Priests or, more commonly, Father.
Did I miss something?
I see that.
Priest, pastor...
Maybe it was an editing mistake, or maybe the author does indeed call her Priest, pastor.
Or maybe the usage was deliberate.
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zainherb wrote: 25 Dec 2020, 17:39
Lunastella wrote: 18 Dec 2020, 12:09 Does anyone else find it strange that the author talks about a pastor when he was raised a Catholic?
I quote: "When I confronted my pastor with this observation he said to me, “most people don’t think that deeply”(p. 3).
I was raised a Catholic too and we refer to religious leaders as Priests or, more commonly, Father.
Did I miss something?
I see that.
Priest, pastor...
Maybe it was an editing mistake, or maybe the author does indeed call her Priest, pastor.
Or maybe the usage was deliberate.
What I wonder is what does it mean if it was intentional. What do you think?
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pricklypurple wrote: 23 Dec 2020, 22:32 I grew up in the Catholic church, went to Catholic school and everything. I only ever remember referring to the priests as Father or Monseigneur. My Lutheran friends all talked about their pastors all of the time.
Yes, the same happened to me. As far as I know, only members of the many branches of the Protestant church call their leaders pastor.
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I agree with you. I have only heard Catholics refer to their Priest as a Priest and not a Pastor. I wonder if in Hunt's search for knowledge that he switched churches and so he went to his pastor of another church? With as negative as he was with the Catholics, I wouldn't see him staying in that church.
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I also know Catholic Church call their leader father or priest. Maybe it is from a cultural perspective. Maybe in their church they can call them pastor.
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I don't know the exact difference between a pastor and a priest. I think it depends on the culture or the country you are in.
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I wonder if the author's credibility declined with that minor issue. It is true that Catholic Church do not call their leaders pastors. Maybe it was intentional..
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cd20 wrote: 26 Dec 2020, 14:42 I agree with you. I have only heard Catholics refer to their Priest as a Priest and not a Pastor. I wonder if in Hunt's search for knowledge that he switched churches and so he went to his pastor of another church? With as negative as he was with the Catholics, I wouldn't see him staying in that church.
That's what I think. That the author might have been soul searching and trying out different churches, but it seems out of place when he's talking about his Catholic background.
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joynob24365 wrote: 26 Dec 2020, 21:38 I don't know the exact difference between a pastor and a priest. I think it depends on the culture or the country you are in.
As far as I know, it depends on the religion. Above on the thread, someone mentioned that in the Church if England they call their leaders Vicars and I'm quite sure in the Catholic Church they're priests or Fathers because I was raised in this religion and I live in a predominantly Catholic country.
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Alice Ngugi wrote: 26 Dec 2020, 23:59 I wonder if the author's credibility declined with that minor issue. It is true that Catholic Church do not call their leaders pastors. Maybe it was intentional..
I think that in a book that deals with such a controversial topic, precision in all the words and facts is essential not to lose credibility, as you say.
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I think it is often personal preference and whatever is common in the respective community. Some names are more commonly used in the Catholic faith. I also think potentially there might be a difference in location. I might be wrong but I think pastor is used more in the USA than the UK.
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Well well, i was also amazed,i mean what actually did Hunt want to bring out .Or maybe editing errors
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Daisy Deeh wrote: 28 Dec 2020, 13:00 Well well, i was also amazed,i mean what actually did Hunt want to bring out .Or maybe editing errors
I would love to have a discussion with the author about this and other aspects of the book. Once, if I remember correctly, OBC hosted a discussion with Van Fleischer. It would be awesome to have something like that.
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I mean, what's the difference really. Both mean the same thing. Why try to separate religion yet they all serve the exact same God.
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