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Kalayla's issues were definitely impacted by racism, but also by the fact that her father had died. How do you think the story would have been different had Jamal lived? Could reconciliation between the family have happened earlier?
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Interesting question. I don't know that Jamal would have any impact. He seems like solid and realistic man. I think that Maureen needed to be open to accept her family apology and the other side namely the father had to come to point where he didn't care what his wife was thinking. Her family side is left with regret to miss out to met a great man because of their bigotry. But those are the consequences we all face when we make a choice in our life that turns out to be wrong.
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I don't think so. If he were alive, I think her parents would still be hiding into thier resentments.
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AntonelaMaria wrote: 01 Sep 2020, 10:51 Interesting question. I don't know that Jamal would have any impact. He seems like solid and realistic man. I think that Maureen needed to be open to accept her family apology and the other side namely the father had to come to point where he didn't care what his wife was thinking. Her family side is left with regret to miss out to met a great man because of their bigotry. But those are the consequences we all face when we make a choice in our life that turns out to be wrong.
How true that our choices all have consequences. It sounded like Jamal really was a great man, and it was definitely a loss for Maureen's family. Thanks for your response.
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Catie139 wrote: 01 Sep 2020, 09:56 Kalayla's issues were definitely impacted by racism, but also by the fact that her father had died. How do you think the story would have been different had Jamal lived? Could reconciliation between the family have happened earlier?
It would all depend on Maureen. She is Kalayla's mum, and a mother has a huge task of ensuring the sanity of the family holds in. Jamal couldn't have had a lot to change the story if Maureen chose not to accept him.
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Laurina_Olowo wrote: 02 Sep 2020, 08:50 I don't think so. If he were alive, I think her parents would still be hiding into thier resentments.
You're right. One thing that's evident in this story is that Kalayla's mum is very secretive and only chooses to tell the background story when the time is appropriate.
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AntonelaMaria wrote: 01 Sep 2020, 10:51 Interesting question. I don't know that Jamal would have any impact. He seems like solid and realistic man. I think that Maureen needed to be open to accept her family apology and the other side namely the father had to come to point where he didn't care what his wife was thinking. Her family side is left with regret to miss out to met a great man because of their bigotry. But those are the consequences we all face when we make a choice in our life that turns out to be wrong.
The fact that he didn't care what Maureen thought portrays that maybe Kalayla would have gone through bitter moments than she did when he wasn't there.
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Joseph_ngaruiya wrote: 04 Sep 2020, 00:51
AntonelaMaria wrote: 01 Sep 2020, 10:51 Interesting question. I don't know that Jamal would have any impact. He seems like solid and realistic man. I think that Maureen needed to be open to accept her family apology and the other side namely the father had to come to point where he didn't care what his wife was thinking. Her family side is left with regret to miss out to met a great man because of their bigotry. But those are the consequences we all face when we make a choice in our life that turns out to be wrong.
The fact that he didn't care what Maureen thought portrays that maybe Kalayla would have gone through bitter moments than she did when he wasn't there.
I meant her father needed to stop caring what his wife thinks- Maureen's mother and seek his daughter forgiveness. In one of the chapters Maureen says that Jamal was very realistic when they started dating about him being black and her family not accepting him whereas Maureen expected not such a harsh reaction.
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AntonelaMaria wrote: 04 Sep 2020, 12:37
Joseph_ngaruiya wrote: 04 Sep 2020, 00:51
AntonelaMaria wrote: 01 Sep 2020, 10:51 Interesting question. I don't know that Jamal would have any impact. He seems like solid and realistic man. I think that Maureen needed to be open to accept her family apology and the other side namely the father had to come to point where he didn't care what his wife was thinking. Her family side is left with regret to miss out to met a great man because of their bigotry. But those are the consequences we all face when we make a choice in our life that turns out to be wrong.
The fact that he didn't care what Maureen thought portrays that maybe Kalayla would have gone through bitter moments than she did when he wasn't there.
I meant her father needed to stop caring what his wife thinks- Maureen's mother and seek his daughter forgiveness. In one of the chapters Maureen says that Jamal was very realistic when they started dating about him being black and her family not accepting him whereas Maureen expected not such a harsh reaction.
Judging from the approach used by Jeannie, Jamal must have found it difficult to talk to Kalayla about her forgiveness. It would have been easier to resolve the issues through Maureen. Things changed gradually as the relationship went through different phases.
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I don't think reconciliation would have been any different if Jamal had lived because he was leaving it up to Maureen. I don't think he would have initiated anything on his own.
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Bertha Jackson wrote: 09 Sep 2020, 20:44 I don't think reconciliation would have been any different if Jamal had lived because he was leaving it up to Maureen. I don't think he would have initiated anything on his own.
Indeed, his role as a father was shared with Maureen. But again, I wouldn't say that he's to blame for all the trouble that Kalayla goes through trying to find herself. From the beginning even when Maureen was with Kalayla at home, she was always hooked to painting or other errands. Kalayla says she wasn't bothered whether they ate late or the same meal for days. This shows that both Jamal and Maureen failed to create enough time and consideration into their daughter's welfare and self awareness.
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Sometimes it is great to end rather than to continue. His death stopped her of witnessing any of his parent sentiments.
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Catie139 wrote: 01 Sep 2020, 09:56 Kalayla's issues were definitely impacted by racism, but also by the fact that her father had died. How do you think the story would have been different had Jamal lived? Could reconciliation between the family have happened earlier?
I don't know if it would have made any difference if Jamal had lived and reconciled with Maureen. I think Maureen's parents would have continued with their unaccepting attitude, which would have continued to cause pressure in Maureen's, Kalayla's, and Jamal's lives. I don't think things would have been any different.
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I think if he was alive, there would be lot of resentments
Death was the best thing to happen, she got free of that resentment and the issue of racism.
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Laurina_Olowo wrote: 02 Sep 2020, 08:50 I don't think so. If he were alive, I think her parents would still be hiding into thier resentments.
True. I think that the fact Maureen lost her husband and was left alone with raising Kalayla, deepened her family's sympathy for her. Maybe it was this sympathy that made them consider reconnecting with Maureen when her father accidently met Kalayla.
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