Believable or Not So Believable Moments

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Tomah wrote: 10 Dec 2019, 11:02 I didn't see many problems with the main characters' actions aside from the fact that they achieved things far too easily, often due to the antagonists' incompetence. Then there's that moment when Tom hacks into a system with just his phone in a few minutes to get information about the car plate. That's probably one the most unbelievable parts.
Yes, you're so right. Sometimes when the baddies are TOO incompetent, it prevents readers from seeing our protagonists being really smart and successful. It feels different when a protagonist solves a difficult problem than when a protagonist takes advantage of a stupid villain's mistakes.
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Everydayadventure15 wrote: 10 Dec 2019, 10:57 My take on this book was that it’s more of a mockery of a real event that could happen, but probably won’t (think funny movie like McHale’s navy or Paul Blart Mall cop). The incompetent bad guys and everything working out for the good guys made for a light-hearted comedic thriller for me.
I agree that this book reminded me of Mall Cop! I wish my expectations for this book had been set properly with a comparison like this prior to my reading it. If I had treated it as a parody or a comedy rather than a meaningful piece of literature, I would have enjoyed it much more.
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I could say there were instances in which some scenes were believable, however, some scenes involving technology was quite unbelievable like Tom hacking a system using his phone.
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Sharon2056 wrote: 01 Jan 2020, 14:30 I could say there were instances in which some scenes were believable, however, some scenes involving technology was quite unbelievable like Tom hacking a system using his phone.
Yeah, and Tom having more recurses than Steve was a stretch.
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I think most of the book was pretty unbelievable, but I also think that's okay for this story. I take it as entertainment, not anything to be read into too deeply. It could definitely be edited to be a very intense, realistic story, but there's also something to be said for more light-hearted fiction like this.
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If the story has so unrealistic plot then I would love to see how it is given a real ending.
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B Creech wrote: 11 Dec 2019, 04:46
amihughson wrote: 10 Dec 2019, 19:17 I feel there are so many unbelievable things, but the first thing that struck me was Kelly going to check the back of the shop (which is the catalyst for literally everything that follows). Whether she believed an employee to be out back having a smoke break or not, whether the shop is small or not, if you don't hear SOMETHING (movement, voices, etc) after yelling into the back for assistance, the typical person isn't going to go behind the counter and through a door clearly marked EMPLOYEES ONLY looking for someone.
I absolutely agree! Knock on the door and wait, maybe? But don't just go in! Another thing that stood out to me was how Kelly was so hesitant to go in with Steve when they went back to break into the computers! She went in when she was alone, was attacked and knew enough self-defense to get away, yet acted scared when the whole group was with her!
I too felt the same. Her character was inconsistent. Like fearless when alone but a damsel in distress when in the group. I didnt understand the logic behind it.
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tannus wrote: 03 Jan 2020, 00:59
B Creech wrote: 11 Dec 2019, 04:46
amihughson wrote: 10 Dec 2019, 19:17 I feel there are so many unbelievable things, but the first thing that struck me was Kelly going to check the back of the shop (which is the catalyst for literally everything that follows). Whether she believed an employee to be out back having a smoke break or not, whether the shop is small or not, if you don't hear SOMETHING (movement, voices, etc) after yelling into the back for assistance, the typical person isn't going to go behind the counter and through a door clearly marked EMPLOYEES ONLY looking for someone.
I absolutely agree! Knock on the door and wait, maybe? But don't just go in! Another thing that stood out to me was how Kelly was so hesitant to go in with Steve when they went back to break into the computers! She went in when she was alone, was attacked and knew enough self-defense to get away, yet acted scared when the whole group was with her!
I too felt the same. Her character was inconsistent. Like fearless when alone but a damsel in distress when in the group. I didnt understand the logic behind it.
That's it exactly! I didn't understand that part either!
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Tomah wrote: 10 Dec 2019, 11:02 I didn't see many problems with the main characters' actions aside from the fact that they achieved things far too easily, often due to the antagonists' incompetence. Then there's that moment when Tom hacks into a system with just his phone in a few minutes to get information about the car plate. That's probably one the most unbelievable parts.
I also felt that things came too easily for the USA team. Kelly's computer skills come to mind for me. She got info off the terrorist computers so fast. I don't know much about computers but that didn't seem realistic to me.
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nfdoughe wrote: 02 Jan 2020, 16:48 I think most of the book was pretty unbelievable, but I also think that's okay for this story. I take it as entertainment, not anything to be read into too deeply. It could definitely be edited to be a very intense, realistic story, but there's also something to be said for more light-hearted fiction like this.
Good point! It wasn't necessary for this book to be 100% believable. It would probably actually appeal to fewer readers if it was too intense and realistic.
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Everydayadventure15 wrote: 10 Dec 2019, 10:57 My take on this book was that it’s more of a mockery of a real event that could happen, but probably won’t (think funny movie like McHale’s navy or Paul Blart Mall cop). The incompetent bad guys and everything working out for the good guys made for a light-hearted comedic thriller for me.
I completely agree, a comedic thrillér. I read another book by Dorothy May Mercer and you would think two different authors wrote the book in the other one the characters were sophomoric yet dealing with issues. I believe she hit the tone she was looking for with this novel.
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I feel like none of it was probable. I still enjoyed the book, and sometimes not probable is okay.
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What about the complete 180 degree change in the supreme leader's character? Initially he's a scary and cunning man, and towards the end he becomes a whiny child!
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Hmmmm i hope i get to enjoy reading the book from the comments I'm seeing.
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"Would real federal agents, etc., behave the way these characters did?" This is exactly what the author wants us to feel that there are people out there who are not doing the right thing. There are people out there who are behaving badly. This is the problem we have in society today.
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