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Post by briellejee » 14 Jun 2019, 18:47

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I would have to say Glenn. Cynthia was okay but she was getting on my nerves from the start. I don't know why, but I don't see her as a likable protagonist, especially after cheating on Dan.
Yes, when a protagonist's first act in the first chapter is cheating, then they tend to become unliked theoughout the book.
Making your character cheat in the beginning is not the the problem though. I don't even know Dan by then when Cynthia flirts with Sky from the start. The problem was how Cynthia's character was written. The act for me was not why I didn't like her, there was something in her personality that I didn't like from the start. Kinda like McDowell, the book of Coles. McDowell was twice as much worse compared to Cynthia, but that didn't stop me from reading because the author knew how to develop his character. On the other hand, Cynthia's behavior and cheating did not even boiled the plot up. It was just a side dish that took up spaces in the book. Just for me though.
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Post by Ferdinand_otieno » 15 Jun 2019, 11:11

briellejee wrote: ↑
14 Jun 2019, 18:47
Ferdinand_otieno wrote: ↑
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briellejee wrote: ↑
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I would have to say Glenn. Cynthia was okay but she was getting on my nerves from the start. I don't know why, but I don't see her as a likable protagonist, especially after cheating on Dan.
Yes, when a protagonist's first act in the first chapter is cheating, then they tend to become unliked theoughout the book.
Making your character cheat in the beginning is not the the problem though. I don't even know Dan by then when Cynthia flirts with Sky from the start. The problem was how Cynthia's character was written. The act for me was not why I didn't like her, there was something in her personality that I didn't like from the start. Kinda like McDowell, the book of Coles. McDowell was twice as much worse compared to Cynthia, but that didn't stop me from reading because the author knew how to develop his character. On the other hand, Cynthia's behavior and cheating did not even boiled the plot up. It was just a side dish that took up spaces in the book. Just for me though.
I understand what you mean. The lack of character-growth and how her career and supposed expertise seemed lacking in her persona.

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Post by Ferdinand_otieno » 16 Jun 2019, 13:53

Ferdinand_otieno wrote: ↑
15 Jun 2019, 11:11
briellejee wrote: ↑
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Ferdinand_otieno wrote: ↑
14 Jun 2019, 09:14


Yes, when a protagonist's first act in the first chapter is cheating, then they tend to become unliked theoughout the book.
Making your character cheat in the beginning is not the the problem though. I don't even know Dan by then when Cynthia flirts with Sky from the start. The problem was how Cynthia's character was written. The act for me was not why I didn't like her, there was something in her personality that I didn't like from the start. Kinda like McDowell, the book of Coles. McDowell was twice as much worse compared to Cynthia, but that didn't stop me from reading because the author knew how to develop his character. On the other hand, Cynthia's behavior and cheating did not even boiled the plot up. It was just a side dish that took up spaces in the book. Just for me though.
I understand what you mean. The lack of character-growth and how her career and supposed expertise seemed lacking in her persona.
As a character ahe started out part dark ( a cheater) and willing to start a cyber-terrorism fighting business. This doesn't change as the book progresses.

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Post by Nisha Ward » 16 Jun 2019, 18:02

Ferdinand_otieno wrote: ↑
16 Jun 2019, 13:53
Ferdinand_otieno wrote: ↑
15 Jun 2019, 11:11
briellejee wrote: ↑
14 Jun 2019, 18:47


Making your character cheat in the beginning is not the the problem though. I don't even know Dan by then when Cynthia flirts with Sky from the start. The problem was how Cynthia's character was written. The act for me was not why I didn't like her, there was something in her personality that I didn't like from the start. Kinda like McDowell, the book of Coles. McDowell was twice as much worse compared to Cynthia, but that didn't stop me from reading because the author knew how to develop his character. On the other hand, Cynthia's behavior and cheating did not even boiled the plot up. It was just a side dish that took up spaces in the book. Just for me though.
I understand what you mean. The lack of character-growth and how her career and supposed expertise seemed lacking in her persona.
As a character ahe started out part dark ( a cheater) and willing to start a cyber-terrorism fighting business. This doesn't change as the book progresses.
Don't even get me started on the cyber-terrorism part. Cynthia showed little interest in actually doing things once she got Tim on board. It was mostly Glenn and the guys doing the work with her only coming in to do grunt stuff or deliver dinner. This was her project and she didn't even know they'd gotten Sky on board? How is that supposed to work?
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Post by Nisha Ward » 16 Jun 2019, 18:03

I have to go with a couple people here and say the nerd squad. As irritated as I am with how the cyber-warfare part of the book was laid out and often neglected, I can't help but like their charm and excitement to actually do heroic stuff.
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Post by Nisha Ward » 16 Jun 2019, 18:35

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I really liked Garth. He was a computer whiz and pretty funny at times. All the stuff he did for the cyber war was beyond amazing and without him we never would have uncovered the secret of Sky and why he seemed so sketchy in the beginning.
That's the thing I don't get about him. He had no reason to be sketchy and yet he was.
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Post by Ferdinand_otieno » 16 Jun 2019, 21:32

Nisha Ward wrote: ↑
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Dikay127 wrote: ↑
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I really liked Garth. He was a computer whiz and pretty funny at times. All the stuff he did for the cyber war was beyond amazing and without him we never would have uncovered the secret of Sky and why he seemed so sketchy in the beginning.
That's the thing I don't get about him. He had no reason to be sketchy and yet he was.
A final twist to try and salvage a character.

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Post by Nisha Ward » 17 Jun 2019, 02:04

Ferdinand_otieno wrote: ↑
16 Jun 2019, 21:32
Nisha Ward wrote: ↑
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Dikay127 wrote: ↑
12 Jun 2019, 21:01
I really liked Garth. He was a computer whiz and pretty funny at times. All the stuff he did for the cyber war was beyond amazing and without him we never would have uncovered the secret of Sky and why he seemed so sketchy in the beginning.
That's the thing I don't get about him. He had no reason to be sketchy and yet he was.
A final twist to try and salvage a character.
It was and there was no reason for it. He didn't need to keep his identity secret at all.
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Post by Ferdinand_otieno » 17 Jun 2019, 14:55

Nisha Ward wrote: ↑
17 Jun 2019, 02:04
Ferdinand_otieno wrote: ↑
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Nisha Ward wrote: ↑
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That's the thing I don't get about him. He had no reason to be sketchy and yet he was.
A final twist to try and salvage a character.
It was and there was no reason for it. He didn't need to keep his identity secret at all.
No, he didn't. He was completely boring until they tried to salvage him.

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Post by Nisha Ward » 17 Jun 2019, 14:56

Ferdinand_otieno wrote: ↑
17 Jun 2019, 14:55
Nisha Ward wrote: ↑
17 Jun 2019, 02:04
Ferdinand_otieno wrote: ↑
16 Jun 2019, 21:32

A final twist to try and salvage a character.
It was and there was no reason for it. He didn't need to keep his identity secret at all.
No, he didn't. He was completely boring until they tried to salvage him.
Is it even normal for Air Force majors to hide their identities?
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Post by mblmn_mortician » 17 Jun 2019, 19:58

Ferdinand_otieno wrote: ↑
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Hmm, I would have to say, Glenn, I found his genuine affection and love for Cynthia quite endearing. He is also quite pragmatic and level-headed which I think was a nice dichotomy between him and Cynthia. (I'm also just a bit of a sucker for good brother-sister relationships)
Glenn was an excellent character. His progressive back and forth with Cynthia was entertaining, and I always love a good sibling egging on.
I'm curious what was going through Glenn's mind when Cynthia walked into his office and the Major was there. That interaction had to be quite the dynamic. In the book, it seemed he was very quick to accept, but I'm curious what would happen if more was elaborated on.

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Post by Ferdinand_otieno » 18 Jun 2019, 00:52

Nisha Ward wrote: ↑
17 Jun 2019, 14:56
Ferdinand_otieno wrote: ↑
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Nisha Ward wrote: ↑
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It was and there was no reason for it. He didn't need to keep his identity secret at all.
No, he didn't. He was completely boring until they tried to salvage him.
Is it even normal for Air Force majors to hide their identities?
Trying to make the ordinary to be interesting. No, they don't, ever! Unless on foreign soil in unofficial business.

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Post by Ferdinand_otieno » 18 Jun 2019, 09:11

mblmn_mortician wrote: ↑
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Ferdinand_otieno wrote: ↑
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Hmm, I would have to say, Glenn, I found his genuine affection and love for Cynthia quite endearing. He is also quite pragmatic and level-headed which I think was a nice dichotomy between him and Cynthia. (I'm also just a bit of a sucker for good brother-sister relationships)
Glenn was an excellent character. His progressive back and forth with Cynthia was entertaining, and I always love a good sibling egging on.
I'm curious what was going through Glenn's mind when Cynthia walked into his office and the Major was there. That interaction had to be quite the dynamic. In the book, it seemed he was very quick to accept, but I'm curious what would happen if more was elaborated on.
Probably play it through, let's find out what she assumes

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Post by Nisha Ward » 18 Jun 2019, 09:36

Ferdinand_otieno wrote: ↑
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Nisha Ward wrote: ↑
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No, he didn't. He was completely boring until they tried to salvage him.
Is it even normal for Air Force majors to hide their identities?
Trying to make the ordinary to be interesting. No, they don't, ever! Unless on foreign soil in unofficial business.
Yeah. That just made him shadier to me, particularly since he was a professor too.
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Post by Ferdinand_otieno » 18 Jun 2019, 23:07

Nisha Ward wrote: ↑
18 Jun 2019, 09:36
Ferdinand_otieno wrote: ↑
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Nisha Ward wrote: ↑
17 Jun 2019, 14:56


Is it even normal for Air Force majors to hide their identities?
Trying to make the ordinary to be interesting. No, they don't, ever! Unless on foreign soil in unofficial business.
Yeah. That just made him shadier to me, particularly since he was a professor too.
Thank you for taking the time to comment on the topic.

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