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Re: Pregnancy (Spoilers)

Post by Dragonsend » 08 Jun 2019, 10:57

I thought that the pregnancy aspect was one of the better parts of the book, it showed consequences of unacceptable behavior. I didn't like that the abortion pill was expounded upon as much as it was. That prescription is only available if you are under a doctor's care and was illegal in the U.S. for a long time. I haven't looked it up but from what I can remember it was in the news for a while. People do not think of what they put themselves through when they act impulsively. I do agree that it didn't add a whole lot to the book but without it there would have been nothing at all to Cynthia's character.
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Post by chiadeer » 08 Jun 2019, 13:37

Shelly Caetano wrote:
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I thought this was a very peculiar subplot that took away from the story. What was even stranger to me was how Mike was the expert on the subject. I found it peculiar that a woman, who knew she was pregnant, experienced very painful abdominal cramps and vaginal bleeding and did not freak out but instead went to work. Overall, I think the author tried to use this subplot as a character development or growth tool. In my opinion, it did not quite hit the mark.
Yes. All of this! I was trying to figure out why the author even added the pregnancy to then end it in miscarriage. I think it detracted from the rest of the story, if anything.

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Post by Sinclairess » 08 Jun 2019, 19:50

I thought it was a great plot twist. I can understand how it was traumatic and she wanted to keep it to herself...

However it upsets me how clueless she was after she had sex with Sky. You are a grown woman, and you don't know what Plan B is? :? It is ironic how in her work life she is so cautious and on top of everything, but it took her forever to take a pregancy test. No one is perfect, but still.
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Post by Sinclairess » 08 Jun 2019, 19:56

VernaVi wrote:
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I too, thought that it was odd that Cynthia drank while pregnant. I also felt that the veiled references to the "syrup' medicine she took could have had something to do with it. Especially after Sky practically offered her the 'abortion/miscarriage option on a silver platter (even going so far as to provide the drugs for it). This part of the plot was my least favorite part of the book.
You make a good point! Maybe after she threw the RU-486 pills away, Dan knew about the pregnancy and the syrup actually induced her miscarriage????
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Post by VernaVi » 09 Jun 2019, 01:29

Sinclairess wrote:
08 Jun 2019, 19:56
VernaVi wrote:
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I too, thought that it was odd that Cynthia drank while pregnant. I also felt that the veiled references to the "syrup' medicine she took could have had something to do with it. Especially after Sky practically offered her the 'abortion/miscarriage option on a silver platter (even going so far as to provide the drugs for it). This part of the plot was my least favorite part of the book.
You make a good point! Maybe after she threw the RU-486 pills away, Dan knew about the pregnancy and the syrup actually induced her miscarriage????
I had the same thought myself. True.

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Post by IloveSpain01 » 09 Jun 2019, 16:45

heatherashley7 wrote:
02 Jun 2019, 15:58
I personally think it was Dan, this may sound far fetched but he did change her sheets so he had to see the letters. One of the letters mentioned the pregnancy and then he was in her bathroom and could have easily crushed the one prescription to mix it in with medicine. I think the author missed a golden opportunity to pin it on the villain in this book.

The situation as a whole was very hard to read after already reading about the Plan B and the second prescription. This plot line was HORRIBLE in my opinion.
I agree that the author could have pinned the miscarriage on Dan. His actions were shady enough to where he could have been at fault for Cynthia's miscarriage. Although, Cynthia was wise enough to not disclose anything to Dan. This is one section of the plot of the book that the author could have done more with.

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Post by shaz1994 » 10 Jun 2019, 12:58

I don't think it related much to the entire plot, whether it was meant to bring out another side of Cynthia or not. It seemed more offside.

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Post by Jo689 » 10 Jun 2019, 15:07

I thought the pregnancy would have some significance or be a foreshadowing event that would lead to subsequent events in the book. Like for example, Cynthia's pregnancy, and unfortunate miscarriage could lead to something new, or be a source of strength in her relationships with the other characters in the book (pregnancy loss is hard for a woman, so having that support can do wonders and repair damaged relationships)

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Post by Helene_2008 » 10 Jun 2019, 19:58

I honestly did not like the whole pregnancy/miscarriage plot and thought it took away from the book. Having been pregnant myself, I thought the nausea was a little extreme (mine was all day but I could function and no vomiting) although I know everyone is different. Having never experienced a miscarriage, I can't say whether that was accurate. I thought cynthia reacted appropriately to the pregnancy. Everyone reacts differently to a miscarriage...unfortunately there are some people out there who don't care too much.

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Post by VernaVi » 11 Jun 2019, 01:08

I felt like their romantic subplot sidelined the story completely. There was just too much focus on Cynthia's sex life and romance, and not enough on the spy/mystery sections of the book. It really hurt the book in my opinion. If the author had spent as much time on the main plot, I think it could have been a more entertaining book.

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Post by Dragonsend » 11 Jun 2019, 15:39

I liked the fact that it portrayed consequences of reckless behavior. When Sky first went to her house it seemed like a plug for those medications. It was sad in a way, and as far as the writing, it was the most realistic part of the book. Not much dialogue there! Yes, I also agree that I know Dan would have seen the medication when he went through the medicine cabinet . I actually thought he was going to confront her about it.
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Post by Sinclairess » 11 Jun 2019, 15:51

Dragonsend wrote:
08 Jun 2019, 10:57
I thought that the pregnancy aspect was one of the better parts of the book, it showed consequences of unacceptable behavior. I didn't like that the abortion pill was expounded upon as much as it was. That prescription is only available if you are under a doctor's care and was illegal in the U.S. for a long time. I haven't looked it up but from what I can remember it was in the news for a while. People do not think of what they put themselves through when they act impulsively. I do agree that it didn't add a whole lot to the book but without it there would have been nothing at all to Cynthia's character.
There is even an article at the end of the book about the abortion pill. As well as Plan B. Just like you said, the abortion pill is prescription only, and Sky is a man, so did he just go to his doctor to order them and it was just OK? Lol.
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Post by Dragonsend » 11 Jun 2019, 16:00

Sinclairess wrote:
11 Jun 2019, 15:51
Dragonsend wrote:
08 Jun 2019, 10:57
I thought that the pregnancy aspect was one of the better parts of the book, it showed consequences of unacceptable behavior. I didn't like that the abortion pill was expounded upon as much as it was. That prescription is only available if you are under a doctor's care and was illegal in the U.S. for a long time. I haven't looked it up but from what I can remember it was in the news for a while. People do not think of what they put themselves through when they act impulsively. I do agree that it didn't add a whole lot to the book but without it there would have been nothing at all to Cynthia's character.
There is even an article at the end of the book about the abortion pill. As well as Plan B. Just like you said, the abortion pill is prescription only, and Sky is a man, so did he just go to his doctor to order them and it was just OK? Lol.
Then you find out he's a military man. Hmm?!? Didn't know prescriptions you can't take are a perk! Well it's FICTION!!!Guess he would have looked too honorable if he would have just offered the doctor and not the pills!
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Post by evraealtana » 13 Jun 2019, 12:29

To me it seemed incongruous with the rest of the book. Personally, I would have preferred it be left out.

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Post by briellejee » 14 Jun 2019, 09:06

Shelly Caetano wrote:
07 Jun 2019, 08:32
I thought this was a very peculiar subplot that took away from the story. What was even stranger to me was how Mike was the expert on the subject. I found it peculiar that a woman, who knew she was pregnant, experienced very painful abdominal cramps and vaginal bleeding and did not freak out but instead went to work. Overall, I think the author tried to use this subplot as a character development or growth tool. In my opinion, it did not quite hit the mark.
Agreed. It was clear to me that the author used it as a growth tool without much thinking when Mike was the one who was expert on the subject. I mean, a woman knows her body well enough and going to work in that condition was really telling of how shallow Cynthia's character is.
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