Women Characters as Spies
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Re: Women Characters as Spies
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I completely agree with you. Often times, women are seen as a disposable object. Something that comes in handy when you need it and easily disposed or abused when you don't. "A woman" is a powerful weapon on its own, capable of being whatever she wants to be. Capable of being smart! I wish we all could see ourselves that way.Ever_Reading wrote: ↑03 Feb 2019, 14:15 I am glad you brought this up. I didn't like how women were generally portrayed in the book. In my opinion, most of the female spies were easily disposable. Out of all of them, Yasmina was the most well-developed. I couldn't tell the rest apart from one another. It felt like they were simply included to benefit and help Jamie, Jacko, and the other lead male characters.
While they came across as smart, it was clear their looks and bodies did most of the work for them. They were effective in their roles but I wish more work could have been done to make their personalities shine through.
Well, if you ask me, I think in this book, the characters of the mentioned women are deceitful but smart.
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They were made just to be there for the heck of it.
They all kinda smashed together. I had a hard time telling each one apart. And because of the men treating the women in this book with little respect.
I had a hard time reading it as it made me sick to my stomach.
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They are not the main characters though. Any supporting or passing character could be disposable. It just happens that the women in the story are not the focus of the author. I don't like women being portrayed as weak in a book too, but these women in the story are smarter than most of the male characters - the reason why they were assigned as spies. Hope this clears it up and you'll give it a chanceStarkidStarling wrote: ↑06 Feb 2019, 13:08 I haven't had the chance to read the book, but it sounds like I'll pass. Weak, disposable female characters is one of my biggest pet peeves.
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But then again this is because most of these women are just part of the story and are not the main characters. We cannot control the author's decision to not develop them as he did with his men characters since it's not about the women but between Jacko and Jamie and the war. As much as I want the women to have better roles other than belly dancers and prostitutes, we could not also take away the fact that it is the time of war, and years ago patriarchal views were practiced. Also, seeing the location and the setting, there are limited roles for women in the book. One woman could actually be a doctor and a spy, or a soldier too, but then again, we all ahve to consider the timeline of the story.OlaIbrahim02 wrote: ↑07 Feb 2019, 02:39 The female characters in this book, although portrayed as smart and useful assets in important issues, are not developed. This is because under the shallow and barely present personalities appointed to each, only their bodies and manipulation they are acquainted with due to profession did the work. For instance, they were belly dancer and prostitutes. Besides, one can argue they were manipulated into being manipulative since they worked towards a cause appointed to them by a man.
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I guess this is because, during those times, that was how men treat women, especially in war zones. It is sickening, to be honest, but seeing that this is historical fiction, the portrayal of how men treat women with little respect is closer to reality.ZipIsHere wrote: ↑06 Feb 2019, 14:37 I didn't like the way the women were portrayed in general.
They were made just to be there for the heck of it.
They all kinda smashed together. I had a hard time telling each one apart. And because of the men treating the women in this book with little respect.
I had a hard time reading it as it made me sick to my stomach.
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I actually wondered whether the women were portrayed in the book that way because that was how they were looked at during the time of the 2nd world war. If the book was set in modern times, also in a war setting, I wonder if they would still be prostitutes and belly dancers or something else.briellejee wrote: ↑07 Feb 2019, 09:20I guess this is because, during those times, that was how men treat women, especially in war zones. It is sickening, to be honest, but seeing that this is historical fiction, the portrayal of how men treat women with little respect is closer to reality.ZipIsHere wrote: ↑06 Feb 2019, 14:37 I didn't like the way the women were portrayed in general.
They were made just to be there for the heck of it.
They all kinda smashed together. I had a hard time telling each one apart. And because of the men treating the women in this book with little respect.
I had a hard time reading it as it made me sick to my stomach.
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I liked to believe that is the case. If set in modern times, I doubt the author would objectify women like that. The backlash would be unbelievable and it just feels so wrong, though patriarchy is still very much alive.Charlyt wrote: ↑08 Feb 2019, 09:46I actually wondered whether the women were portrayed in the book that way because that was how they were looked at during the time of the 2nd world war. If the book was set in modern times, also in a war setting, I wonder if they would still be prostitutes and belly dancers or something else.briellejee wrote: ↑07 Feb 2019, 09:20I guess this is because, during those times, that was how men treat women, especially in war zones. It is sickening, to be honest, but seeing that this is historical fiction, the portrayal of how men treat women with little respect is closer to reality.ZipIsHere wrote: ↑06 Feb 2019, 14:37 I didn't like the way the women were portrayed in general.
They were made just to be there for the heck of it.
They all kinda smashed together. I had a hard time telling each one apart. And because of the men treating the women in this book with little respect.
I had a hard time reading it as it made me sick to my stomach.