Discuss Definition of insanity

Use this forum to discuss the November Book of the month "If life stinks get your head outta your buts" by Mark L. Wdowiak
Post Reply
User avatar
Ayat paarsa
Posts: 228
Joined: 01 Oct 2018, 00:18
2019 Reading Goal: 15
Currently Reading:
Bookshelf Size: 44
Reviewer Page: onlinebookclub.org/reviews/by-ayat-paarsa.html
Latest Review: Sigfried’s Smelly Socks! by Len Foley

Discuss Definition of insanity

Post by Ayat paarsa » 02 Nov 2018, 08:59

Definition of insanity?
"You can't keep doing the same things in life and expect to get different results. Do you want to live a life of torment? Then keep doing what you are doing, and you will keep getting what you are getting."
Do you agree with this idea of insanity by the author? I know you can do it, but will you do it?
:reading-5: @paarsa. :escribir:

Sirajuddin
Posts: 229
Joined: 02 Jun 2018, 05:35
Currently Reading: The Carbynarah Chronicles, Book #1
Bookshelf Size: 58
Reviewer Page: onlinebookclub.org/reviews/by-sirajuddin.html
Latest Review: The Sword Swallower and a Chico Kid by Gary Robinson

Post by Sirajuddin » 03 Nov 2018, 00:41

Definitely, I agree with the author on this point that, if we don't get a positive result then there is a need to change our approach or mindset towards the goal we want to achieve.

User avatar
Sicily Joy
Posts: 199
Joined: 25 May 2018, 23:57
2019 Reading Goal: 48
2018 Reading Goal: 60
2018 Reading Goal Completion: 15
Currently Reading: The African-American Ritual Cookbook
Bookshelf Size: 892
Reviewer Page: onlinebookclub.org/reviews/by-sicily-joy.html
Latest Review: Take My Breath Away by B.A.Bostick

Post by Sicily Joy » 03 Nov 2018, 02:47

I agree that if something you are doing isn't working or isn't improving the situation, it is time to try new tactics. Yet, I don't think people who keep doing the same things are necessarily insane. Insanity, in my opinion, is when your behaviors are causing devasting results in your life and you felt a lack of control to do otherwise.

User avatar
Samuel Waragu
Posts: 231
Joined: 14 Jun 2017, 08:52
2019 Reading Goal: 24
2019 Reading Goal Completion: 4
2018 Reading Goal: 11
2018 Reading Goal Completion: 318
2017 Reading Goal: 7
2017 Reading Goal Completion: 114
Currently Reading:
Bookshelf Size: 414
Reviewer Page: onlinebookclub.org/reviews/by-samuel-waragu.html
Latest Review: At the Mouth of a Cannon by Kevin Annett

Post by Samuel Waragu » 03 Nov 2018, 04:23

I can define insanity as thinking that you know and heading in the right direction while the direct opposite is true.
“If things start happening, don't worry, don't stew, just go right along and you'll start happening too.”~Dr. Theodor Seuss Geisel (1904-1991)

Bavithra M
Posts: 170
Joined: 08 Oct 2018, 08:38
2018 Reading Goal: 10
2018 Reading Goal Completion: 80
Currently Reading: Inspirience: Meditation Unbound
Bookshelf Size: 28
Reviewer Page: onlinebookclub.org/reviews/by-bavithra-m.html
Latest Review: The Traveler's Best Seller by Rick Incorvia

Post by Bavithra M » 03 Nov 2018, 10:42

I agree with your view about insanity.
Bavithra M

User avatar
cpru68
Posts: 782
Joined: 14 Feb 2018, 19:21
2019 Reading Goal: 24
2018 Reading Goal: 24
2018 Reading Goal Completion: 229
Favorite Book: More Heavens Than One
Currently Reading: Winning the War on Cancer
Bookshelf Size: 87
Reviewer Page: onlinebookclub.org/reviews/by-cpru68.html
Latest Review: The Optimal Dose by Judson Somerville MD
Reading Device: B00HCNHDN0

Post by cpru68 » 03 Nov 2018, 13:34

I agree with it because we often don’t take responsibility for our actions and don’t want to change. Human nature isn’t always excited about trying new things and it looks like craziness when we still don’t get results and we keep doing the same unfavorable things repeatedly.
Everything happens for a reason...

User avatar
Jsovermyer
Posts: 316
Joined: 18 Sep 2018, 22:41
Currently Reading: Temptation Trials Revolution
Bookshelf Size: 43
Reviewer Page: onlinebookclub.org/reviews/by-jsovermyer.html
Latest Review: Invisible Me by H M Irwing

Post by Jsovermyer » 03 Nov 2018, 15:18

If what you are doing is not working, and you aren't getting what you want, then you need to change your actions. You may need to look at the situation in an entirely different way. I don't think you are necessarily insane. You may just be stuck in a rut.

User avatar
Alicia09
Posts: 234
Joined: 10 Jul 2018, 12:29
Currently Reading:
Bookshelf Size: 57
Reviewer Page: onlinebookclub.org/reviews/by-alicia09.html
Latest Review: Winning the War on Cancer by Sylvie Beljanski

Post by Alicia09 » 03 Nov 2018, 17:14

I think this line was meant to show that sometimes it is easy to keep making the same mistakes over again. So I will say yes, I do agree that this is a good definition of insanity by the author. As far as real life is concerned, I don't know if it will be that easy for me to truly change my habits. I could try, but I think it would take a lot of self monitoring in order for me to be able to truly change the mistakes I keep making. I would almost need to look at myself from an outsiders perspective, which is hard to do because not everyone has my best interest in mind.
:character-beavisbutthead:

User avatar
MKRichards
Posts: 24
Joined: 09 Oct 2018, 12:42
Currently Reading:
Bookshelf Size: 12
Reviewer Page: onlinebookclub.org/reviews/by-mkrichards.html
Latest Review: Boom! A Revolting Situation by Thomas Richard Harry

Post by MKRichards » 03 Nov 2018, 20:38

The direct quote from Einstein: "The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results." The author may not have been aware of how close it was to his (or he did, and chose not to cite it).

User avatar
Sakilunamermaid
Posts: 487
Joined: 18 Jan 2018, 22:29
2019 Reading Goal: 30
2019 Reading Goal Completion: 3
2018 Reading Goal: 52
2018 Reading Goal Completion: 44
Currently Reading: Ready Player One
Bookshelf Size: 465
Reading Device: B00JG8GOWU

Post by Sakilunamermaid » 03 Nov 2018, 21:59

That is in fact the technical definition of insanity. The point is that you will keep experiencing the same discouragement, failure etc. If you do not learn from the experience. The outcome will not be the positive one that you want it to be. It takes action and choice/ decision to change your life and make a difference.

User avatar
jgraney8
Posts: 162
Joined: 09 May 2018, 18:08
2018 Reading Goal: 100
2018 Reading Goal Completion: 34
Currently Reading:
Bookshelf Size: 38
Reviewer Page: onlinebookclub.org/reviews/by-jgraney8.html
Latest Review: Murder in Memory by Mike Thorne
Reading Device: B00JG8GOWU

Post by jgraney8 » 03 Nov 2018, 22:50

The definition reflects the labor of Sisyphus condemned to push a rock up a hill for eternity. The expectation of a different result would be a delusion, so it seems to describe one type of insanity. The definition is too narrow, but it does fit many situations. The question then seems to me to be when does insight arrive? If it never does, then it is insanity. If one arrives at the insight of the futility of the repeating the action, does that mean one is sane?
“On the highest throne in the world, we still sit only on our own bottom.”
― Michel de Montaigne, The Complete Essays

User avatar
M Zee
Posts: 161
Joined: 03 Apr 2018, 13:22
Currently Reading:
Bookshelf Size: 27
Reviewer Page: onlinebookclub.org/reviews/by-m-zee.html
Latest Review: The Witch of Endor: Vampires by RK Wheeler

Post by M Zee » 04 Nov 2018, 22:41

jgraney8 wrote:
03 Nov 2018, 22:50
The definition reflects the labor of Sisyphus condemned to push a rock up a hill for eternity. The expectation of a different result would be a delusion, so it seems to describe one type of insanity. The definition is too narrow, but it does fit many situations. The question then seems to me to be when does insight arrive? If it never does, then it is insanity. If one arrives at the insight of the futility of the repeating the action, does that mean one is sane?
Yeah, this particular adage has been around for a long time. It's not really anything new in terms of self-help. It's probably helpful to younger readers who haven't been exposed to the concepts in a philosophy or even history class, though.
I was born with a reading list I will never finish.

User avatar
Vlinstry
Posts: 52
Joined: 17 Feb 2018, 18:43
2018 Reading Goal: 20
2018 Reading Goal Completion: 20
Currently Reading:
Bookshelf Size: 15
Reviewer Page: onlinebookclub.org/reviews/by-vlinstry.html
Latest Review: The Embalmer by Vincent Zandri

Post by Vlinstry » 05 Nov 2018, 05:16

I agree. The definition of insanity is 'doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results'. If you don't change your approach to something then the outcome will never change and you will just end up in a loop.

User avatar
Katherine Smith
Posts: 613
Joined: 30 Mar 2017, 10:56
2019 Reading Goal: 60
2018 Reading Goal: 50
2018 Reading Goal Completion: 52
2017 Reading Goal: 50
2017 Reading Goal Completion: 44
Favorite Book: <a href="http://forums.onlinebookclub.org/shelve ... 524">Nancy Drew</a>
Currently Reading: The Complete Sherlock Holmes
Bookshelf Size: 84
Reviewer Page: onlinebookclub.org/reviews/by-katherine-smith.html
Latest Review: "Whisky tango foxtrot...copy" by John regan
Reading Device: B01KVZV52A

Post by Katherine Smith » 05 Nov 2018, 15:19

I agree with the author's definition of insanity and his advice on how to end the cycle. I think that it's hard to stop this cycle especially if you have been doing something for a long time. An example I thought was when your at work and you keep trying to do more work then everyone else to get noticed by your employer. If you change your outlook on the situation, then you can achieve those positive results.
Latest Review: "Whisky tango foxtrot...copy" by John regan

User avatar
Juliar252
Posts: 124
Joined: 18 Sep 2018, 09:50
Currently Reading:
Bookshelf Size: 19
Reviewer Page: onlinebookclub.org/reviews/by-juliar252.html
Latest Review: If Life Stinks, Get Your Head Outta Your But's by Mark L. Wdowiak

Post by Juliar252 » 05 Nov 2018, 18:43

I have been told that insanity is: "doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result." While that may be true, I also acknowledge that habits are difficult to break, so it takes more than just self-discipline to break those damaging cycles.

Post Reply

Return to “Discuss "If life stinks get your head outta your buts" by Mark L. Wdowiak”