Did the lack of Action Steps take away from the usefulness of this book?

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Re: Did the lack of Action Steps take away from the usefulness of this book?

Post by FictionLover » 12 Nov 2018, 21:58

raqstar1 wrote:
12 Nov 2018, 10:36
I really think that this book was more of a reminder for those who have already heard the main points than a true self help. As I read it, there were a few moments of 'Oh yeah' reminders. I don't think action points would have been very helpful because it really isn't a 'how to' book with steps to take. It's more like a metaphorical slap back into reality.
I'm not sure if I agree with you or not. For those who are stuck in their "buts", it should be a self-help book. They are out of touch with reality. As I see it, that is his point.
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Post by Radiant3 » 13 Nov 2018, 11:38

The advice presented throughout the book was extremely useful and insightful. Action Steps probably would have enhanced the book but I don't think it detracted from the usefulness of the book.

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Post by FictionLover » 13 Nov 2018, 16:27

Radiant3 wrote:
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The advice presented throughout the book was extremely useful and insightful. Action Steps probably would have enhanced the book but I don't think it detracted from the usefulness of the book.
Thanks, great perspective.
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Post by Sunday diamond » 13 Nov 2018, 17:28

I haven't read the book yet. The book is becoming interesting to me though.

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Post by David Koreas » 13 Nov 2018, 21:06

I'm opined the written exercise at the end of each chapter was a booster for memorizing things already learnt in the foregoing topics. I think they were quite useful.

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Post by Radiant3 » 14 Nov 2018, 07:48

FictionLover wrote:
13 Nov 2018, 16:27
Radiant3 wrote:
13 Nov 2018, 11:38
The advice presented throughout the book was extremely useful and insightful. Action Steps probably would have enhanced the book but I don't think it detracted from the usefulness of the book.
Thanks, great perspective.
Thank you :)

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Post by Ever_Reading » 14 Nov 2018, 10:42

I'm glad someone said it! The lack of action steps made the book feel like one long introduction, in my opinion. As I was reading, I couldn't help but feel like I was in a lecture and the professor was reading information from his slides without even looking up. And as a student, that is the worst kind of lecture to have.

But luckily with the book, I could take a break any time I felt my mind drifting away.
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Post by Ever_Reading » 14 Nov 2018, 10:46

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Action steps at the end of each chapter are two-fold. Sometimes they pertain to the readers life - other times they are just something I would not do. I made my own action steps for this book. Also, when you take the time to do that yourself, it solidifies the knowledge into your brain and you get more out of the book.
Mmmm, I didn't think of that. I admire your approach but if I am honest, I'm a little too lazy to follow your example. :lol2: Kudos to you :tiphat:
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Post by FictionLover » 14 Nov 2018, 21:16

Ever_Reading wrote:
14 Nov 2018, 10:42
I'm glad someone said it! The lack of action steps made the book feel like one long introduction, in my opinion. As I was reading, I couldn't help but feel like I was in a lecture and the professor was reading information from his slides without even looking up. And as a student, that is the worst kind of lecture to have.

But luckily with the book, I could take a break any time I felt my mind drifting away.
I understand. I posted this topic because while I was reading, I kept expecting some further direction or examples that never came!
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Post by CinWin » 14 Nov 2018, 21:31

Ever_Reading wrote:
14 Nov 2018, 10:46
CinWin wrote:
05 Nov 2018, 09:49
Action steps at the end of each chapter are two-fold. Sometimes they pertain to the readers life - other times they are just something I would not do. I made my own action steps for this book. Also, when you take the time to do that yourself, it solidifies the knowledge into your brain and you get more out of the book.
Mmmm, I didn't think of that. I admire your approach but if I am honest, I'm a little too lazy to follow your example. :lol2: Kudos to you :tiphat:
I only do that with books that I am really interested in. If I did that with all of them I would read a book every 6 months! :reading-6:
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Post by fernsmom » 15 Nov 2018, 00:21

I can see both points of views. At times it would be beneficial to have the steps there, but on the other hand- they can be annoying and skimmed over. But, maybe a compromise, for those that feel they would benefit from them would be at the end of the book? Just a thought.

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Post by Nusrat_Shabnam_ » 15 Nov 2018, 02:18

This is an interesting book even without exercises. Adding exercise would ruin that interest.

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Post by gfowle » 15 Nov 2018, 11:28

Yes Yes Yes! I cannot agree with you enough about the need for there to be concrete action steps. We all need the chance to practice and apply things in our lives, as well as to commit to doing certain things, if we are to really apply the principles presented by the author, and that was completely absent from this book!

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Post by abbiejoice » 15 Nov 2018, 20:09

Lack of action steps doesn't necessarily lessen the usefulness of a book. Some recommendations could merely be implied within the philosophy. In a way, a book can be meant to be inspirational and not instructional.

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Post by Lucas Kalinic » 15 Nov 2018, 23:05

I had no problems with the books plan. I believe it was okay.

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