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Post by Jkhorner » 03 Apr 2018, 12:46

Zilelabelle wrote:
01 Apr 2018, 15:11
That depends, are you referring to the mother or the daughter? Because I think the daughter showed more fortitude and strength of character in protecting her mother.
This was my immediate question. I think the draw of the prologue was not that the little girl thought, "I need to be strong for Mom," but rather that she was scared, but she was frustrated and did something about it anyway. From the prologue alone, you don't know the mother's motivations. Perhaps (mistakenly) she thought she was taking the beatings to protect her daughter.

Does strength of character necessarily mean that the character does the right thing? Or simply that she does something ?

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Post by Zilelabelle » 03 Apr 2018, 12:53

Jkhorner wrote:
03 Apr 2018, 12:46
Zilelabelle wrote:
01 Apr 2018, 15:11
That depends, are you referring to the mother or the daughter? Because I think the daughter showed more fortitude and strength of character in protecting her mother.
This was my immediate question. I think the draw of the prologue was not that the little girl thought, "I need to be strong for Mom," but rather that she was scared, but she was frustrated and did something about it anyway. From the prologue alone, you don't know the mother's motivations. Perhaps (mistakenly) she thought she was taking the beatings to protect her daughter.

Does strength of character necessarily mean that the character does the right thing? Or simply that she does something ?
I like that. Right now too many people are trapped in a state of 'non-doing' and it seems like anything is better than nothing. Of course, that logic also got us our current pres, so... it depends?

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Post by Syeda Malaika Khalid » 03 Apr 2018, 14:13

A woman is strong enough to handle family not only family A woman always control her emotions whenever she gets hurt by someone or by her family member for e.g her husband slapped or beat her mostly A woman just don't want to tell about such matters to others she cooks for u she cares for your childrens for you she do care for you she also cares about your sister friends and family but who was there when she got hurted by someone or by her husband she cries all alone and she tries to forget every thing and move on so if she spend her whole life for you and your family do care for her do love her do respect and take respect don't treat her like an animal she is a human too

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Post by SparklesonPages » 05 Apr 2018, 11:16

Natalie’s circumstances contributes to her strength. Her need to stand up for her mother and brother makes her determined to overcome her situation.

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Post by KLafser » 05 Apr 2018, 12:39

Interesting. I find the two to be separate entities. Being unhappy doesn't make one any less strong. The abuse chips away at one's strength and, in my opinion, that's more through the erosion of self-confidence. It seems like it takes the crossing of some sort of line of unacceptability to cause the strength to re-establish its place.

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Post by KLafser » 05 Apr 2018, 12:40

cristinaro wrote:
03 Apr 2018, 03:11
I think the author used a good strategy by introducing Natalie and her family exactly when Natalie turned 16. Any reader in this world would immediately empathize with the protagonist, would appreciate her strength and would be willing to forgive her future mistakes. The question is: will our feelings and opinion about Natalie change up to the end of the story? I'll come back with an answer once I finish reading.
Completely agree! We need this backdrop to understand from whence she came in order to understand what happens and where she goes next.

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Post by FilmStar » 05 Apr 2018, 12:54

I don't know about strong woman based on the prologue but I still it shows that ever since she was a little girl, she has had to grow up with abuse.

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Post by mingyums » 05 Apr 2018, 14:43

I'd say in this case, it felt like the prologue conveyed a strong female character (in Natalie specifically) precisely because of the unhappy situation she was in which forced her to rise up and be strong in order to protect someone whom she loved. Although in general I would say, regardless of the home situation the female character is in, you can still convey a strong character in many ways.

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Post by EricaWilson » 05 Apr 2018, 18:07

I think that the description of her unhappy home reveals what has the power to make her doubt herself, but also highlights her mental strength and fortitude. She not only pushes past her own doubts stemming from a lack of encouragement and affection, but she rises above her own circumstance when she protects her mother and siblings by standing up to her stepfather. Such an act takes a great amount of courage, and a large amount of responsibility rests on her shoulders.

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Post by maggiechap » 05 Apr 2018, 21:23

Yes, I think it does on both the count of Natalie and her mother. As a child Natalie learns to stand up to the abuser and become her mother's protector. As for the mother, we don't know what causes the fight and all we know is that her mother isn't strong enough to fight back at that point and is too afraid. We also need to remember that the home is not unhappy because she is a strong woman or because of a woman at all, or in relation to gender, it's unhappy because someone in that home is an abusive jerk. The book never defines exactly what makes the home unhappy, only explaining to the reader that the home is, in fact, unhappy. However, I think that the unhappy home is what defines the strength of the main character.

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Post by Vickie Noel » 06 Apr 2018, 07:06

More often than not, a person's true nature comes out in the face of trials and opposition. For Natalie, we get to see what she's truly made of when it came to protecting those close to her heart. Others could take advantage of similar situations to look solely after their own interests while ignoring every other soul. I'd definitely say she exhibited real strength of character.
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Post by zilizopita1998 » 06 Apr 2018, 09:10

Zilelabelle wrote:
01 Apr 2018, 15:11
That depends, are you referring to the mother or the daughter? Because I think the daughter showed more fortitude and strength of character in protecting her mother.
The daughter approved to be such a caring character.

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Post by morenikeji100 » 06 Apr 2018, 12:43

Natalia is indeed persistent about her goal, that makes her a strong girl. She has determination and was unable to stand by her self and protect her mother, despite the fact that she is a 16yr old girl.

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Post by Zain A Blade » 06 Apr 2018, 13:01

I think difficulties and trials are the ingredients that create strength of character in a person. But depending on the individual, difficulties can either make or break them.

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Post by Mr Benji » 06 Apr 2018, 17:38

Natalie's strong resilience to the painful experiences that she went through, proves her strong character. All these contributed to her development as an adult.
Wise men lay up knowledge
(Proverbs 10:14)

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