How much responsibility falls on the NRA?

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Re: How much responsibility falls on the NRA?

Post by Eileen R » 03 Apr 2018, 16:11

The NRA does have its own share of responsibility in mass shootings. However, the perpetrators should also be held accountable. No one party is solely responsible for mass shootings.

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Post by Shrabastee » 22 Apr 2018, 00:24

Purely in the context of the book: the way NRA is portrayed leaves no option but to say yes, they should have been way more responsible! Not only did they fail to take responsibility for the mass shootings in two schools, they blatantly encouraged the teachers to acquire guns! I wonder how can a dangerous and fatal weapon be used to 'reduce' violence?

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Post by FilmStar » 25 Apr 2018, 10:57

When a drunk driver kills someone, they blame the driver and not the car manufacturer. How is that any different than blaming a gun instead of the shooter? I believe the NRA should make restrictions with acquiring certain guns. I don't like that the book portrayed them as evil and insensitive. That seemed like a one-sided stance.

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Post by Mildred Tabitha » 29 Apr 2018, 00:08

I think the NRA leaders were portrayed as careless and insensitive. The gun not only protected the senior citizens, it encouraged killings and murders. I feel seniors would have been given security guards and bodyguards to protect them instead of being given guns.
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Post by butterflyinaweb » 30 Apr 2018, 20:19

None. People are responsible for their own actions. I think a lot of what is wrong with todays world is the fact that so many fail to accept the responsibility of their actions or point the finger of blame where it doesn't belong.

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Post by Emie Cuevas » 02 May 2018, 18:08

The NRA is just a company. They have no responsibility for what happens with their products after they are sold (assuming they function correctly), all they are responsible for is getting as much profit as they can legally.
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Post by Lu_rire » 02 May 2018, 20:48

The NRA does have some responsibility in the issue of mass shootings. Afterall it actively promotes wider use of guns and helped make guns more easily available to those predisposed to such gruesome acts. However, I feel the majority of the responsibility still falls on society and the individual.

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Post by Isabelleva » 04 May 2018, 07:33

I think there is some responsibility to the NRA because they hold such a powerful platform and have a lot of power to manipulate what they want.

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Post by Felice01 » 12 May 2018, 06:24

I think a lot of responsibility falls on NRA I mean how can they continue to be okay with selling, making guns available to the wrong people. people are dying daily inocent people. Wow money is the root of all evil. The sad thing is their is not change in sight how many more have to die.

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Post by joshfee77 » 12 May 2018, 10:02

khusnick wrote:
03 Mar 2018, 17:00
kandscreeley wrote:
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I'm not so sure. When a drug that the FDA has approved turns out to be deadly, people blame the drug manufacturer not the FDA. Isn't this similar?
The FDA doesn't try to push for the things they approve to be used or bought. The FDA doesn't lobby for political campaigns. The NRA has been harassing survivors of the Parkland shooting. Personally, I don't think anyone in the FDA would be doing that if someone survived after taking drugs that killed other people or to the people that were related to the deceased.

The FDA looks into their mistakes. They're willing to change their approvals when things become deadly. The NRA pushes for more guns in response to a gun problem. It's not quite the same. They absolutely are responsible because pumping more guns into the hands of angry and clearly sensitive people is their only answer. They want more sales because they get their money from corporations that want more sales, and they use that money to convince politicians to be complicit in the deaths of innocent people in huge numbers.
I agree completely. The NRA actively promotes the sale of more guns "for protection" in the wake of such mass shooting atrocities as Parkland. Their advertising and offering a "discount" just makes it worse. Anyone with even an ounce of common sense will tell you that the answer to a gun violence problem isn't more guns. Yet that is exactly what the NRA promotes. They also actively lobby and instigate legal action against any proposed change to gun laws in any US state, no matter how small. I too have witnessed first-hand their harassment of student mass shooting survivors on Twitter. From what I've seen, the NRA has absolutely no moral or social conscience. They might pretend they do, but in reality all they care about is selling more guns. So yes, they are largely responsible for the gun violence problem in the US.

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Post by kjs237 » 20 May 2018, 13:16

My dad was a card carrying member of the NRA and he taught my sister and I that guns are dangerous and should be handled with care. He was a hunter and only used guns in that respect. But back then, the NRA was all about gun and hunter safety so for us, it was a resource for gun use. I don't remember ever noticing a huge focus on the absolute right to bear arms but it was understood that gun ownership was a heavy responsibility and something to take very seriously if you decided to own one. Now it's all about promoting gun sales and limiting gun control. Due to this focus, it's clear to me that the NRA is a major contributor to the violence we see today. We need reasonable, responsible gun laws and the NRA hides behind the second amendment to insure that gun manufacturers and gun sales are protected instead of human life.

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Post by ValBookReviews » 31 May 2018, 20:05

Considering that the author depicts that it was the NRA leaders and members idea, yes, I think they should be held just as responsible for the actions of others, as they appeared "none responsible for their own".
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Post by CheyenneR » 18 Jun 2018, 23:00

For at least a few of the shootings they should have taken some responsibility because of the senior discount. Some of their news segments were in very poor taste as well but for some of the shootings, I wouldn't say they played a part.

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Post by KatSims92 » 23 Jul 2018, 11:41

Absolutely they should. They only care about profit and couldn't care less about the safety of U.S. citizens. Their approach after a mass shooting is to sell more guns for "protection."

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Post by Jennifer Fernandez » 01 Aug 2018, 17:41

I think they are portrayed as responsible in the book. They manipulated the media and issued the senior discount to fill their coffers not caring about the consequences. They are not responsible for the decisions people make but they are responsible to give easy gun access to people who make bad decisions.
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