How do we allow scientific innovation without ruining the world?

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n-dai che wrote: 23 Mar 2018, 22:17 You're right! The watch was created with good intentions, but the holder do not know how to handle his/her Final Notice in a nice way. Why is it they chose it that way? The concept of the story happens in reality either.
It's human nature. I don't know if something can really be done. We can try to regulate wrongdoing as much as we can, but we can't curb the urge for revenge
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Makena Mugendi wrote: 27 Mar 2018, 17:50
n-dai che wrote: 23 Mar 2018, 22:17 You're right! The watch was created with good intentions, but the holder do not know how to handle his/her Final Notice in a nice way. Why is it they chose it that way? The concept of the story happens in reality either.
It's human nature. I don't know if something can really be done. We can try to regulate wrongdoing as much as we can, but we can't curb the urge for revenge
Yeah, right... When we are in conflict, we longed for revenge.
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n-dai che wrote: 27 Mar 2018, 20:12
Makena Mugendi wrote: 27 Mar 2018, 17:50
n-dai che wrote: 23 Mar 2018, 22:17 You're right! The watch was created with good intentions, but the holder do not know how to handle his/her Final Notice in a nice way. Why is it they chose it that way? The concept of the story happens in reality either.
It's human nature. I don't know if something can really be done. We can try to regulate wrongdoing as much as we can, but we can't curb the urge for revenge
Yeah, right... When we are in conflict, we longed for revenge.
What do you feel about these things though? I have been seeing a lot of your responses that are about a sentence long that just repeat what the person said. I get that you are trying to have the most posts but this is a discussion. I what to know what you think and feel about the book and about what people are saying about the book.
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Makena Mugendi wrote: 27 Mar 2018, 17:50
n-dai che wrote: 23 Mar 2018, 22:17 You're right! The watch was created with good intentions, but the holder do not know how to handle his/her Final Notice in a nice way. Why is it they chose it that way? The concept of the story happens in reality either.
It's human nature. I don't know if something can really be done. We can try to regulate wrongdoing as much as we can, but we can't curb the urge for revenge
yeah, scientific innovation makes our lives easy, but on the other side is fatal like this issue of guns.
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There are always two sides to a scientific discovery. The atomic bomb carried with it a large number of deaths, not to mention that it inaugurated an era of terror and paranoia. At the same time, the scientific principles behind it were used for what is today our maximum source of electrical energy, although not the most desirable one.

There is also the case of dynamite. Who says that its creator thought that it was going to be used in something more than the demolition of structures or in mining? Should I remind you his name, and to what famous award it is applied :lol: ?
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Then, what is the name?

Scientific innovation plays an important role in our society because it tries to make possible things out of nothing or from dangerous thing. They tried to modified like the dengue vaccine in our country, yet it damage many lives.
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Technological and scientific development must go hand in hand with the emotional and intellectual development of each individual and of society as a whole, from that point, almost all developments can be carried on without the fear that people will misuse them.
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AbbyGNelson wrote: 01 Mar 2018, 11:39
What do you think? Do we allow innovation to continue without reserve or guidelines? Is that ethical? Is there a way to be more careful without losing out on new inventions that will truly help the world?
It seems that every new invention comes with a new consequence that it can be used for harm as well as for good. The book of Ecclesiastics states that, apart from belief in God, everything is meaningless. I am not sure I believe in God anymore, but experience also has made me come to the conclusion that despite all of our great inventions, there remains hatred and murder, and we seem to just be going in circles trying to improve the moral environment surrounding the status of our world, and that there seems to be nothing new under the sun.
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We must recognize that every scientific innovation has its consequences. These innovations must be regulated to prevent the end of the world. The government should seriously consider this before accepting any more innovations.
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The biggest risk that humanity faces are ' Black Swan' events. Essentially creating a technology whether it is for good or ill and being completely unaware of the impact it might have. That is to some degree why regulation, while wise, can only help so much because as it has been said before ' we don't know what we don't know'.
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The World and this life isn't a piece of cake. There are ups and there are downs, there are issues resolved and there are problems created. While eliminating one problem, another can rise in less than even a minute! We can't eliminate every problem existing on the planet but what we can do is try, and make the most out of however much we get to explore. Live for yourself and in that, live for others.
Coming to the point where it relates to the book, death is inevitable. Thinking about death gives you anxiety, it's a proven fact. Let's agree to disagree with the belief that no one can stop death, no matter where technology goes. This body is made to deteriorate one day, even the highly preserved bodies (Egyptian Mummies) decompose to a certain level.
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This question makes me think of "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep/Bladerunner." By their nature, computers are set to think in terms of yes or no. If AI gets to a point where it's making decisions about our planet, who knows what could happen? For example, if the computers suddenly decide oxygen is no good for their processors and get rid of it, we would be in a bit of trouble. Obviously, this is an extreme example, but it makes one wonder. On the flip side, technology has done so much to better our lives. AI in the medical field could help so much. As for a line between ethical and not, I'm not sure where to draw it or if it can even be drawn. There is good and bad to everything.
You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
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I have always held that technology is a necessary evil at times. Thinking about the past times we read about when no one would imagine of mass killings that could happen in seconds. A time when atomic bombs were not imaginable and when the only threat was mainly disease, you begin to see the big difference. But then here we are. The thing is that ethical issues should be held on in all technological advances. It may be hard to imagine the human race being wiped out but still ethics count much in any society at any time.
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People today are lucky that they live in this time wherein technology has been updated wherein even the most trivial matters can be solved by it. We move in a fast pace world and it has its advantages. Work has been made easier and quicker for us. However, the development of technology has its disadvantages. At some point, us humans cannot control of the power we have in this society to the point that we do not only ruin our environment but each other as well. We need to wake up and control how we govern our society. Lastly, we need to be kind to each other and widen our perspective in everything!
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I think a lot of this depends on who is responsible for it. You can do amazing things with science but if the person responsible doesn't regulate it, it can quickly escalate out of control. Science is advancing quicker then our ability to morally understand all of the consequences
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