The Final Notice Option

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Re: The Final Notice Option

Post by kfwilson6 » 28 Mar 2018, 11:31

britt13 wrote:
27 Mar 2018, 16:43
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I think I would want that to prepare myself and my loved ones. Also, such an option could lessen the anxiety of the user. But who would really want to be reminded that they only have, three of five days to live? and on their freaking watch?
I recently watched the new season of Black Mirror and it has an episode that made me think like your comment. It works with these little things that match you with someone and then tell you how long you will be with that person before you break up. It caused people to check out of the relationship because they knew it was ending. That is the way I feel about the watch for me personally. I feel like I would just get depressed it was ending and want it to happen right away then instead of dragging out for 30 days (or whatever I chose).
I saw that too. Knowledge in advance of an event can cause a self-fulfilling prophecy (Oedipus Rex anyone?). If you are simply told you have 10 days to live, you may take that to me no treatment can extend that period or cure you completely of whatever is causing the alert. VitalTech never really did give a good explanation of how definitive the Final Notice option was. It sounded like "you will die no matter what you do" but if tech is so good it can tell you you are dying, then it's also pretty advanced in terms of curing what ails you.

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Post by Emmanae » 28 Mar 2018, 15:10

n-dai che wrote:
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27 Mar 2018, 17:11
I think I'd opt in if I could set it for 3 months or so. Then I have time to go on a crazy trip, have a full thought out will, and have time to say goodbyes.
I understand your feelings for that. The crazy trip makes me laugh. Well, to make life more meaningful. Nice idea.
Just to be clear = Crazy trip meant backpacking or something, not drugs xD

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Post by Miriam Molina » 28 Mar 2018, 19:32

I would want to know, but I don't think it's going to be possible to know for sure. If ever, I would like to go the way of Greta Johansson in the story. What a peaceful way to say goodbye!

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Post by See_B00kReaDs » 29 Mar 2018, 00:00

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I think I would want to know. Then again, maybe I wouldn't. It's so hard to say! I definitely wouldn't want more than a few days notice though...I would worry too much. A few days would give me enough time to do a few last bucket list items and say my goodbyes without giving me time to dwell on it or get depressed, I think.
I agree with you, knowing it for long won't do us any good.

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Post by See_B00kReaDs » 29 Mar 2018, 00:15

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I believe in living every day like it’s quite possibly my last. If some device was supposed to tell me when I had only a short time left, it would be easy to slip into a mindset of thinking I have time until otherwise notified, when that might not be true, and that would mean wasting today, potentially neglecting the work God has for me because I’m assuming I will still be here tomorrow.
I definitely agree with you. Let us not waste our day worrying of when our end would be, but rather let's focus on living our life to the full for the glory of God.

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Post by See_B00kReaDs » 29 Mar 2018, 00:22

brunettebiblio wrote:
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I think I would want to know. Then again, maybe I wouldn't. It's so hard to say! I definitely wouldn't want more than a few days notice though...I would worry too much. A few days would give me enough time to do a few last bucket list items and say my goodbyes without giving me time to dwell on it or get depressed, I think.
Learning about it for long will only create changes in the choices we made, knowing it too soon would create fear, anxiety, depression, etc. One way or another, it will be hard for us to stay happy knowing we will be leaving our loved ones behind.

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Post by BriennaiJ » 29 Mar 2018, 19:40

I think if I knew, I might be more ambitious for a short time. Then I might just get depressed as I count down the days until I die. I could also get anxious and start rushing around, hoping that I will be able to do everything before I die. I wonder, could your day get closer if you start to work yourself to death?

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Post by n-dai che » 30 Mar 2018, 11:33

BriennaiJ wrote:
29 Mar 2018, 19:40
I think if I knew, I might be more ambitious for a short time. Then I might just get depressed as I count down the days until I die. I could also get anxious and start rushing around, hoping that I will be able to do everything before I die. I wonder, could your day get closer if you start to work yourself to death?
Yeah, it sounds sad. I'm gonna die early if I know because of thinking that idea of death. Only God knows.

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Post by n-dai che » 30 Mar 2018, 11:42

See_B00kReaDs wrote:
29 Mar 2018, 00:22
brunettebiblio wrote:
02 Mar 2018, 09:28
I think I would want to know. Then again, maybe I wouldn't. It's so hard to say! I definitely wouldn't want more than a few days notice though...I would worry too much. A few days would give me enough time to do a few last bucket list items and say my goodbyes without giving me time to dwell on it or get depressed, I think.
Learning about it for long will only create changes in the choices we made, knowing it too soon would create fear, anxiety, depression, etc. One way or another, it will be hard for us to stay happy knowing we will be leaving our loved ones behind.
Yeah, those who are left behind who will be affected very much. So sad. I can't imagine it. Life will just come to an end. I rely it to God.

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Post by n-dai che » 30 Mar 2018, 11:46

Miriam Molina wrote:
28 Mar 2018, 19:32
I would want to know, but I don't think it's going to be possible to know for sure. If ever, I would like to go the way of Greta Johansson in the story. What a peaceful way to say goodbye!
You have the point as well. Usually people are scared to die that's why there are plenty of people don't want to.

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Post by BriennaiJ » 30 Mar 2018, 11:52

n-dai che wrote:
30 Mar 2018, 11:33
BriennaiJ wrote:
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I think if I knew, I might be more ambitious for a short time. Then I might just get depressed as I count down the days until I die. I could also get anxious and start rushing around, hoping that I will be able to do everything before I die. I wonder, could your day get closer if you start to work yourself to death?
Yeah, it sounds sad. I'm gonna die early if I know because of thinking that idea of death. Only God knows.

Yes. We definitely shouldn't be alerted of our deaths, unless we are going to die in like a day or something. It might be nice to have an alert like 24 hours before you die just so you can say goodbye to family and friends.

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Post by n-dai che » 31 Mar 2018, 07:37

BriennaiJ wrote:
30 Mar 2018, 11:52
n-dai che wrote:
30 Mar 2018, 11:33
BriennaiJ wrote:
29 Mar 2018, 19:40
I think if I knew, I might be more ambitious for a short time. Then I might just get depressed as I count down the days until I die. I could also get anxious and start rushing around, hoping that I will be able to do everything before I die. I wonder, could your day get closer if you start to work yourself to death?
Yeah, it sounds sad. I'm gonna die early if I know because of thinking that idea of death. Only God knows.

Yes. We definitely shouldn't be alerted of our deaths, unless we are going to die in like a day or something. It might be nice to have an alert like 24 hours before you die just so you can say goodbye to family and friends.
Exactly! I guess still, it is very hard to do. The best thing to do is to cherish life while we are still breathing. :lol:

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Post by KRay93 » 31 Mar 2018, 10:12

I think that including the option of the "Final Notice" was somewhat hasty and irresponsible. They should have taken into account a psychological study of the possible reactions of patients, especially if they receive the news in a cold and distant manner, without being accompanied by professionals or relatives. As discussed in the book, they should have lowered the "tone" of the concept, to treat it more as a warning or a recommendation.

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Post by n-dai che » 31 Mar 2018, 15:20

KRay93 wrote:
31 Mar 2018, 10:12
I think that including the option of the "Final Notice" was somewhat hasty and irresponsible. They should have taken into account a psychological study of the possible reactions of patients, especially if they receive the news in a cold and distant manner, without being accompanied by professionals or relatives. As discussed in the book, they should have lowered the "tone" of the concept, to treat it more as a warning or a recommendation.
You have the point, though. I guess Final Notice was just a strong word that it is very hard to cope up.

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Post by britt13 » 31 Mar 2018, 19:24

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27 Mar 2018, 23:55
Just the thought of knowing would take me out faster than even the prescribed date. I would definitely not want to know. With all this being said, it is the responsibility of everyone to live life to the fullest, taking all possible precautions to sustain life. The rest is in the hands of the Almighty Creator.
I thought about this too. I do not remember the characters name, but the guy who shot up the convenience gas station died prior to his projected final notice. I kept thinking that my anxiety about knowing when would make me have a heart attack. I do not know how some people went so calmly, like the lady who melted down the guns and gave away everything her daughter did not want to charity. I would love to think that would be what I would do, spend time with those I love and get my affairs in order, but I feel like I would just sit there freaking out!

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