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Post by BoyLazy » 07 Oct 2017, 01:28

Amagine wrote:
The Researcher wrote:I think both are important.legends carry the legacy to coming generations but the data is there for the real analysis. So, data cannot be ignored for legends.
Data definitely can not be ignored.
Yes. In practical life it is now more important.
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Post by Anjum » 07 Oct 2017, 03:06

Although I believe in legends, I tend to rely more on data and facts to prove them.

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Post by BoyLazy » 07 Oct 2017, 03:39

Anjum wrote:Although I believe in legends, I tend to rely more on data and facts to prove them.
yes we search google for facts and reviews.
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Post by Amagine » 07 Oct 2017, 07:40

Google is always a good place to go
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Post by BoyLazy » 07 Oct 2017, 07:56

Amagine wrote:Google is always a good place to go
He he. You are right.
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Post by Amagine » 07 Oct 2017, 08:00

There are lots of ways to search facts
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Post by dhomespot » 07 Oct 2017, 14:10

I have always believed that legends have some truth to them. That being said, data should not be left out when making an important decision. I believe there should be a place in the middle where both can be taken into account.
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Post by Amagine » 07 Oct 2017, 15:26

There are lots of legends that hold some truth to them.
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Post by Christina Rose » 09 Oct 2017, 04:36

BoyLazy wrote:
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Eric77 wrote:Both are equally important. They all have their places and can't be substituted for another. However, in this day and age, more importance could be given to data.
I do think more emphasis is put on data nowadays. There are less and less people who believe in legend without concrete facts.
Exactly. I feel like they are tales and are often blown out of proportion.
I don't think they are blown out of proportion at all. I was just saying more people today need actual facts. I don't happen to be one of those people … Legends are cultural stories passed from generation to generation. Legends are based in history, and I've no reason not to believe stories told to me by my elders. However, quite often, history books have been proven false.

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Vickie Noel wrote:I tend to err more on the side of data, though I understand the significance of legends as it forms the basis of a people's culture, sometimes, their origin as well. But I think the facts generally speak more for themselves.
I can agree with you that facts and physical data can pretty much speak for themselves, but I still tend to lean more towards legends as being more significant in terms of knowing where you came from. To some, those stories of creation, legends of warriors, and various rituals and such, are all that's truly left after war and violence and even weather. Those are our links to preserve, even if we can't put them in a museum.
Facts can be changed @Vickie Noel and @Christina Rose. They are all a factor of time, even scientific theory is only real till the thesis is substantially challenged. I consider legend more stable, though it can be interpreted differently as its always outlandish to non-believers.
I'm in agreeance with you that legends are more stable.

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Post by Emie Cuevas » 09 Oct 2017, 18:41

I think both traditions and data have their place, but they both need to be verified. I always remember the following story as an example:
In cooking Thanksgiving dinner, a man noticed that his wife cut the ends of the ham.
He asked her why, and she said: "it's how her mum always cooked it."
A short time later visiting her parents he innocently asked her Mum, why do you cut off the ends of the ham? Mum Replied "it's how her mum always cooked it."
Luckily a short time later they just happened to visit his wives grandmother. Hoping to finally find out why he asked granny the same question.
She said, "I had to, my pan was too small for the ham to fit!"
As I say, verify the tradition is valid before following it blindly.
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Post by Salsabila » 09 Oct 2017, 22:47

In the case of whether to bury the atlatl or not I support Myra. Using the atlatl to prevent construction was the most suitable idea. But as for whether to follow legends or data I would support both Sergei and Myra. Both legends and data are important in understanding the beginning of time.

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Post by gali » 09 Oct 2017, 23:12

Salsabila wrote:In the case of whether to bury the atlatl or not I support Myra. Using the atlatl to prevent construction was the most suitable idea. But as for whether to follow legends or data I would support both Sergei and Myra. Both legends and data are important in understanding the beginning of time.
I feel the same and support Myra too.
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Post by Christina Rose » 10 Oct 2017, 00:56

Salsabila wrote:In the case of whether to bury the atlatl or not I support Myra. Using the atlatl to prevent construction was the most suitable idea. But as for whether to follow legends or data I would support both Sergei and Myra. Both legends and data are important in understanding the beginning of time.
I agree that using the atlatl to prevent construction was the most suitable idea. I wonder if Tom was just being stubborn when he continued to insist they leave it with Bob-Bob.

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Post by gali » 10 Oct 2017, 01:46

Christina Rose wrote:
Salsabila wrote:In the case of whether to bury the atlatl or not I support Myra. Using the atlatl to prevent construction was the most suitable idea. But as for whether to follow legends or data I would support both Sergei and Myra. Both legends and data are important in understanding the beginning of time.
I agree that using the atlatl to prevent construction was the most suitable idea. I wonder if Tom was just being stubborn when he continued to insist they leave it with Bob-Bob.
I don't think he was just being stubborn. I think he truly believes it is better to leave it with Bob-Bob.
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Post by Christina Rose » 10 Oct 2017, 04:34

gali wrote:
Christina Rose wrote:
Salsabila wrote:In the case of whether to bury the atlatl or not I support Myra. Using the atlatl to prevent construction was the most suitable idea. But as for whether to follow legends or data I would support both Sergei and Myra. Both legends and data are important in understanding the beginning of time.
I agree that using the atlatl to prevent construction was the most suitable idea. I wonder if Tom was just being stubborn when he continued to insist they leave it with Bob-Bob.
I don't think he was just being stubborn. I think he truly believes it is better to leave it with Bob-Bob.
I'm sure you're right ? In a real life situation, it wouldn't be an easy decision to make, regardless of whether or not Myra's argument made sense.

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