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Amagine wrote:
walter7 wrote:The two compliment to each other but mostly data should work with legends
The two definitely do compliment one another that's why both are needed.
Well said both of you.

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Vickie Noel wrote:I tend to err more on the side of data, though I understand the significance of legends as it forms the basis of a people's culture, sometimes, their origin as well. But I think the facts generally speak more for themselves.
It's facts that I believe in strongly. Legends are not always for real.
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Both are equally important. They all have their places and can't be substituted for another. However, in this day and age, more importance could be given to data.
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Eric77 wrote:Both are equally important. They all have their places and can't be substituted for another. However, in this day and age, more importance could be given to data.
They are both equally important. I definitely agree.
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Eric77 wrote:Both are equally important. They all have their places and can't be substituted for another. However, in this day and age, more importance could be given to data.
I do think more emphasis is put on data nowadays. There are less and less people who believe in legend without concrete facts.
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Christina Rose wrote:
Eric77 wrote:Both are equally important. They all have their places and can't be substituted for another. However, in this day and age, more importance could be given to data.
I do think more emphasis is put on data nowadays. There are less and less people who believe in legend without concrete facts.
Exactly. I feel like they are tales and are often blown out of proportion.
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Christina Rose wrote:
Vickie Noel wrote:I tend to err more on the side of data, though I understand the significance of legends as it forms the basis of a people's culture, sometimes, their origin as well. But I think the facts generally speak more for themselves.
I can agree with you that facts and physical data can pretty much speak for themselves, but I still tend to lean more towards legends as being more significant in terms of knowing where you came from. To some, those stories of creation, legends of warriors, and various rituals and such, are all that's truly left after war and violence and even weather. Those are our links to preserve, even if we can't put them in a museum.
Facts can be changed @Vickie Noel and @Christina Rose. They are all a factor of time, even scientific theory is only real till the thesis is substantially challenged. I consider legend more stable, though it can be interpreted differently as its always outlandish to non-believers.
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I think legends are just more personal and that's why a lot of people are so drawn to them.
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Alicnim wrote:
Christina Rose wrote:
Vickie Noel wrote:I tend to err more on the side of data, though I understand the significance of legends as it forms the basis of a people's culture, sometimes, their origin as well. But I think the facts generally speak more for themselves.
I can agree with you that facts and physical data can pretty much speak for themselves, but I still tend to lean more towards legends as being more significant in terms of knowing where you came from. To some, those stories of creation, legends of warriors, and various rituals and such, are all that's truly left after war and violence and even weather. Those are our links to preserve, even if we can't put them in a museum.
Facts can be changed @Vickie Noel and @Christina Rose. They are all a factor of time, even scientific theory is only real till the thesis is substantially challenged. I consider legend more stable, though it can be interpreted differently as its always outlandish to non-believers.
Different way of thinking.. I could never understand this.
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BoyLazy wrote:Both are important but I would give a little more preference to data while not completely ignoring the importance of legends.
I also think both are very important and do complement each other. However, where data is missing, legends should remain an important means to beliefs about the past.
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BoyLazy wrote:Both are important but I would give a little more preference to data while not completely ignoring the importance of legends.
I also think both are very important and do complement each other. However, where data is missing, legends should remain an important means to beliefs about the past.
Can you share an example where data is missing and legends have been useful.. just wondering about how often that happens?
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BoyLazy wrote:Both are important but I would give a little more preference to data while not completely ignoring the importance of legends.
I also think both are very important and do complement each other. However, where data is missing, legends should remain an important means to beliefs about the past.
I also believe that legends should always be important.
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In the literary world the answer to this question is ambiguous. Depending on the story either "data" (which I liken to facts) or "legends" (which I liken to tradition) can be the information that leads to the correct path.

In reality I find that data is the more impactful information that is needed to make a good decision.
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Amagine wrote:
meteku4 wrote:
BoyLazy wrote:Both are important but I would give a little more preference to data while not completely ignoring the importance of legends.
I also think both are very important and do complement each other. However, where data is missing, legends should remain an important means to beliefs about the past.
I also believe that legends should always be important.
In real life instance I can't find an example where I've looked over facts.. thus not going for legends..
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I think both are important.legends carry the legacy to coming generations but the data is there for the real analysis. So, data cannot be ignored for legends.
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The Researcher wrote:I think both are important.legends carry the legacy to coming generations but the data is there for the real analysis. So, data cannot be ignored for legends.
Data definitely can not be ignored.
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