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Post by Collo » 10 Aug 2017, 22:32

I second you Jaime Lync. If the world would conform to the teachings of Jesus Christ corruption wouldn't be a topic of discussion. He, Christ, empowers whosoever believes in him to live an upright life.
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Post by Abfaniki » 11 Aug 2017, 03:56

I believe in cause and effect.We live in a Material world most of the training we receive is taught without consideration to cause and effect. i.e state give remuneration, bonus, Gift, and other rewards without considering Equity. State need to consider Equity first not Equality if corruption is to be a thing of the past ( as it is for me democracy is a failure and is our last hope we have to get it right and get it fast we elect people to position and once they get there the enrich their self and create a system or exploit the weakness of the masses to get reelected, why won't they what they get in one tenure and average individual has to work 25 -30 years to earn that). If the state takes away the materials thing it gives in good faith corruption will be gone. After all, all the good things in life are free hence public servers should be free.

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CaitlynLynch wrote:I think the notion of a 'corrupt state' is pretty unfair. Even if there are corrupt people in power, generally the citizens aren't actually corrupt. There is usually huge resentment when a corrupt official is seen to be enriching himself at the cost of the citizens - one reason why I think the fall for Putin will be long and hard when it comes!
Rightly said.
His fall will be hard and long.
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Post by Donnavila Marie01 » 12 Aug 2017, 04:24

Kinnera wrote:I feel corruption is underrated. It's not just politics that it's embedded in but most of our lives. And while we fight the obvious signs of corruption, they're not the ones that actually affect the world adversely.
I agree. It affects us politically, economically, socially, and emotionally. The people from the grass roots suffer the most.
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Post by AliceofX » 12 Aug 2017, 17:12

CaitlynLynch wrote:one reason why I think the fall for Putin will be long and hard when it comes!
I once watched a documentary that talked about his enormous wealth. At the end, it claimed that after his first eight-year term as president ended he did consider leaving politics but he realized that he would never be safe then. So he had to stay in power.

Corruption is very much a "give the devil your little finger" deal. The Bible often talks about sin as slavery, but few people realize the truth of it until it's too late.

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Post by Miriam Molina » 12 Aug 2017, 17:59

Man is sinful and corrupt by nature. Even in Jesus's time, this was the case. That is why we need a higher power to free us from sin and the ways of the world.

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Post by bluegreenmarina » 12 Aug 2017, 21:45

I think generally corrupt individuals need the power of a corrupt entity backing them in order to be able to make any impact.

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Post by Donnavila Marie01 » 13 Aug 2017, 01:00

Gideon umunnakwe wrote:corruption is bad,but it something we all practice without realizing it.
We practice corruption without realizing it because we tend to rationalize our actions.

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bluegreenmarina wrote:I think generally corrupt individuals need the power of a corrupt entity backing them in order to be able to make any impact.
I agree. An individual can not practice corruption alone. Corrupt entities influence individuals .
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Post by ritah » 16 Aug 2017, 14:41

Christina Rose wrote:Corruption is definitely initiated by an individual who then influences others on their thinking. Once they rise to such power, though, it becomes increasingly difficult to overcome the corruption, even if the majority has issue with those in power.
If that ain't the truth! I wish their was a formula or cure for corruption.

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Post by Mallory Whitaker » 16 Aug 2017, 15:29

Corruption and power go hand-in-hand. That's not to say everyone who holds power is corrupt. But those who seek to gain or hold onto it, adopt a Machiavellian mindset; the ends justify the means. If you feel justified (even though you shouldn't), then you're not going to see what you're doing as bad. That's going to make it so much easier to keep doing the same thing, or worse, to justify doing even more. Like Darakhshan said, it's an endless and vicious cycle. Unfortunately, these people probably think a little bit more like Voldemort: "There is no good and evil, there is only power, and those too weak to seek it."
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Post by shish_by_design » 18 Aug 2017, 03:29

Its unfair to generalise a few corrupt people with hardworking, honest people. Unless a whole state, including children, are corrupt, then there is no such thing as a corrupt state.
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Post by Donnavila Marie01 » 18 Aug 2017, 03:49

[quote="Abfaniki"]I believe in cause and effect.We live in a Material world most of the training we receive is taught without consideration to cause and effect. i.e state give remuneration, bonus, Gift, and other rewards without considering Equity. State need to consider Equity first not Equality if corruption is to be a thing of the past ( as it is for me democracy is a failure and is our last hope we have to get it right and get it fast we elect people to position and once they get there the enrich their self and create a system or exploit the weakness of the masses to get reelected, why won't they what they get in one tenure and average individual has to work 25 -30 years to earn that). If the state takes away the materials thing it gives in good faith corruption will be gone. After all, all the good things in life are free hence public servers should be free.

Your answer is coming from an idealist perspective. How I wish a single political leader agrees with you. Unfortunately, your dream does not happen in our lifetime.
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Post by readandsmile » 23 Aug 2017, 04:53

Well, corruption? Corruption started within our house. When we do background check our family, you will know. A simple thing by hiding in the family is considered corruption. Corruption must not exercise within our family but the sad thing, it happened without being noticed.
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Post by Donnavila Marie01 » 25 Aug 2017, 06:22

ritah wrote:
Christina Rose wrote:Corruption is definitely initiated by an individual who then influences others on their thinking. Once they rise to such power, though, it becomes increasingly difficult to overcome the corruption, even if the majority has issue with those in power.
If that ain't the truth! I wish their was a formula or cure for corruption.
The cure for corruption will never be discovered in our life time because the cure is honesty and selflessness.
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Post by jenjayfromSA » 28 Aug 2017, 05:27

State corruption depends on where the skeletons are buried and how many there are. When all the roleplayers have something on each other, nobody dares to break the ranks. Favours for favours and soon there is a massive network of corruption with everyone scoring by keeping silent. When the cupboard starts to open and all the skeletons fall out ... that's when the man in the street realises the country has been sold. Then it's too late.

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Post by charlesjr2 » 28 Aug 2017, 10:04

Corruption is absolutely bad. And take it from someone who lives in a corruption magnified country. I think we all should start to work on ourselves first, abstaining from corruption.
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