Are these things happening?

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Are these things happening?

Post by Amy Baker » 23 May 2017, 14:00

What do you think? Is there a group in charge of taking care of these things? Maybe not to this degree, but something of the sort.

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Post by jemgirl202 » 23 May 2017, 15:51

Are you saying are these supernatural things happening? Is there some kind of cult or council that actually exists? There are several cults or cult theories out there.

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Post by Janien van Rooyen » 23 May 2017, 23:37

I think there are many "masterminds" out there controlling many things. From people right down to events... my theory anyway

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Post by Amy Baker » 24 May 2017, 07:42

I guess I have just never let myself think about things like this. More of a head in the sand plan. It's totaly scare to me and makes me feel completely out of control.

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Post by bruin » 24 May 2017, 09:52

Amy Baker wrote:More of a head in the sand plan. It's totaly scare to me and makes me feel completely out of control.
I feel this way when I start to wonder if there is an influential mastermind.

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Post by jimthorne2 » 24 May 2017, 14:09

There is a mastermind but He is not human or demonic. He is the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ. It is laughable to think that a human coalition could control things in the spiritual world. I know there is a lot of fiction about mystics and such but it is just fiction.
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Post by Amy Baker » 25 May 2017, 08:21

Some would say God is laughable. I personally am on the fence. I'm actually envious of people of faith. I just don't have it.

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Post by jimthorne2 » 25 May 2017, 09:26

Faith is something everybody has but the issue is not whether or not you have faith but where is that faith directed.

-- 25 May 2017, 10:47 --

Amy, If you want to pursue the idea of faith more I suggest you look at https://www.udemy.com/the-question-of-a ... Mode=guest that will discuss the whole issue.
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Post by BookishBookkeeping » 26 May 2017, 18:20

To the extent the book takes it, that would be a possible no. It's hard to think a group of people are out there trying to control what should be seen or even believed. Though this isn't impossible to do or even to be such a far fetched notion. Now before you think this is just some kind of conspiracy thinking type of stuff remember only 1% of the entire world population are billionaires. This doesn't include corporations, banks, governments and so forth.
Then there was the denial of the cult called "the Illuminati" and since its been confirmed to exist, now it's being made out to be just another club. No big deal.
So it's possible for the world media and most of the outlets to be controlled by such a group. They just can't control every single person. Yet.
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Post by jimthorne2 » 26 May 2017, 18:57

You show the influence by Ayan Rand on your thinking which is not surprising. I acknowledge the possibility of a group or groups of people involved in trying to influence world culture. I'm not convinced any group will succeed as they desire. I believe in a higher power in control of everything and although He is There and He is not Silent, He is personal, powerful, and good.
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Post by BookishBookkeeping » 26 May 2017, 22:03

jimthorne2 wrote:You show the influence by Ayan Rand on your thinking which is not surprising. I acknowledge the possibility of a group or groups of people involved in trying to influence world culture. I'm not convinced any group will succeed as they desire. I believe in a higher power in control of everything and although He is There and He is not Silent, He is personal, powerful, and good.
Thank you for your response and correction. I realise I should have put a jk at the end of my last sentence about controlling people. Though it's probably something I shouldn't be joking about. I agree with your previous post about it being laughable for humans to think they can control the spiritual world (maybe this is why this kind of thinking only happens in a work of fiction) because there is only One who does and He is the Triune God.
Now as for Ayn Rand, I haven't gotten far enough into it to know about one group succeeding in controlling everyone. I hope you haven't given away a spoiler for me. :(
There are many influences in our world today and I merely wanted to acknowledge that this book brings some of it to light in the use of the council. That it's not so outlandish for there to be a clean up crew, or groups of people wanting to achieve world domination.
My belief is such that there is no one but God with the authority to control demons and history. The Bible gives many examples of people having no power over demons, but there is One who does, Jesus Christ. This is one of the reasons why so many people flocked to Him, because He had the authority to cast the demons out, and they had never encountered someone with that kind of authority before. So no worries, I do understand this is a work of fiction just like Dan Brown's "The Da Vinci Code". :D

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Post by jimthorne2 » 27 May 2017, 14:41

Well, we are writers and words are important to us. Ayn Rand doesn't really talk about a group but about power and I'll let you read more before you decide where that is going. You have some things to learn about her.
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Post by Oluwafemi Oni » 03 Jun 2017, 16:15

Yes they are happening, maybe not all as stated but definitely they do. If one haven't had the opportunity to live in regions where they are actually experienced it is hard to believe. It's just like some people don't believe there are witches whereas some encounter them almost everyday of their lives.

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Post by jimthorne2 » 03 Jun 2017, 17:07

I have lived in one of those regions and experienced the terror of the drums of madzoka.
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Post by kislany » 21 Jun 2017, 09:06

I believe in these things, even though I haven't experienced them personally, maybe because I haven't lived in regions where their influence is more dominant. But yeah, I do believe (unfortunately).

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