Suffering as a way of purification in "Raven's Peak"

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Re: Suffering as a way of purification in "Raven's Peak"

Post by fayetino » 09 Aug 2017, 01:53

to me that is just absurd. Maybe if I research the topic I might understand it better but at this point I can't fathom why someone would put themselves through that when I can't even stand the slightest pain.

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Post by Anjum » 24 Nov 2017, 08:11

I don't know if suffering can purify someone but I think the love of God can do it.

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Post by Harrygx3 » 09 Feb 2018, 08:01

I believe suffering is the consequence of your actions that go wrong. I don't know exactly what is meant by the word "purification" but I can say that the only way to make up for something you did wrong is to change your behavior and learn from your lessons. Pain is natural but you can overcome it by having integrity in your actions and think before you act. Once you go in purely out of your own volition then all the pain is welcome and brushed away easily.

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Post by mamalui » 18 Mar 2018, 16:02

bookiegalke wrote:
31 Jul 2017, 11:57
my perception of suffering from s biblical context has nothing to do with purification but rather as a matter of perfecting faith. in the end it's all about God receiving the glory as opposed to us presenting ourselves as objects of pity
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Post by AnnaKathleen » 26 Mar 2018, 13:41

Suffering has long been tied to different religions, as punishment or a means to find salvation and purification. With so many religious tones in the book I was not surprised to see it, however I surprised how well the author demonstrated the different perceptions of it. As well as with pain. I found myself appreciating that he seemed to blend so many perspectives into his story form the physical suffering to mental and emotional. At times it seemed purification and purging went hand in hand. In a way, it draws the reader's attention to the questions "where is the line? Does it really exist or is it dependent upon the person?" I still don't think I've settled on an answer but I definitely thought about it a lot more.
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Post by atonykamau » 27 Mar 2018, 07:28

I don't think that purification can be used as a justification for suffering. Even if we all suffer from time to time we can not use purification as a reason to inflict suffering.

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Post by Catherine Davis » 27 Apr 2018, 09:04

Escarilla wrote:
14 May 2017, 17:09
I think that suffering is a way of purification because it removes your attachment to material things. It gives you the ability to go above and beyond your physical capabilities. It helps you have a stronger self control over your physcial, mental, and spiritual capabilities.
I think that this is how people view fasting. Just a thought.

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Post by Catherine Davis » 27 Apr 2018, 09:13

I don't believe that pain is ever an avenue to purification. When reading it in the beginning of the book, I really thought it was quite demonic. I know someone who cuts themselves in order to feel. It's a mental thing, suffering. Fasting is not about suffering, I fast. For me, it about gaining control over my own actions (or my flesh as we Christians would say). It is a discipline which I gain from, taking it into the natural and spiritual areas of my life like compulsive spending or doing what is right versus wrong. My body does suffer but never to the point where I'm doing damage to it, that's not the point. Pain by why of physical abuse (as Arthur was doing) isn't beneficial. It seems that he was doing it to compensate for whatever wrong he had done.

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Post by butterflyinaweb » 19 May 2018, 22:14

I believe that without pain or suffering one cannot fully learn compassion. I believe that without compassion one cannot truly love. In that respect it is indeed away of purification.

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