About God in "Raven's Peak"

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About God in "Raven's Peak"

Post by Aldonsa » 05 Apr 2017, 05:27

When Arthur and Frieda mentioned God they always said "she". Why "she"? What do you think?
I wonder maybe Council and Hunter's Order believe in the Aramaic Holy Spirit? :eusa-think:

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Post by AliceofX » 05 Apr 2017, 08:03

That also bugged me to no end. You'd think at some point this drastic departure from the common pronoun would be explained, but it never does. The first thing that came to my mind was some sort of political correctness thing was going on, but I wouldn't like to jump to conclusions.

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Post by James Craft » 05 Apr 2017, 08:06

AliceofX wrote:That also bugged me to no end. You'd think at some point this drastic departure from the common pronoun would be explained, but it never does. The first thing that came to my mind was some sort of political correctness thing was going on, but I wouldn't like to jump to conclusions.
It felt more like the character reflecting his own views outward than necessarily a political correctness thing. For example, at other points in the book/series God is referred to with the more accepted 'He' pronoun. This choice felt more like a personal trait for arthur than necessarily a stance from the author, sort of to develop the character maybe.

Dunno.

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Post by kandscreeley » 05 Apr 2017, 08:18

James Craft wrote:
AliceofX wrote:That also bugged me to no end. You'd think at some point this drastic departure from the common pronoun would be explained, but it never does. The first thing that came to my mind was some sort of political correctness thing was going on, but I wouldn't like to jump to conclusions.
It felt more like the character reflecting his own views outward than necessarily a political correctness thing. For example, at other points in the book/series God is referred to with the more accepted 'He' pronoun. This choice felt more like a personal trait for arthur than necessarily a stance from the author, sort of to develop the character maybe.

Dunno.
I completely agree. I also thought it was more of a character choice than an author or a total book thing.
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Post by AliceofX » 05 Apr 2017, 08:52

kandscreeley wrote:I also thought it was more of a character choice than an author or a total book thing.
Hence the "wouldn't like to jump to conclusions" caveat. I don't know what the author was thinking, I can only guess. But the thing about it was that it was never explained. If it was a character choice then why wasn't this choice given more details instead of just being thrown out there? Especially since this is a priest we're talking about.

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Post by hsimone » 05 Apr 2017, 10:38

Interesting topic. I also wondered why God was a "She" in this read. I can only speculate, as well, but since this book was focused on Haatim and Abigail that maybe in the next book(s) will explain this further? Or maybe it is further explained in the side book of Arthur's, The Ninth Circle?

It didn't really bother me much, but I did think it was an interesting choice.
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Post by Aldonsa » 05 Apr 2017, 11:53

kandscreeley wrote: I also thought it was more of a character choice than an author or a total book thing.
In this case it is the choice of at least two characters: Arthur and Frieda. I would like to know how other Hunters and Council members refer to God. But maybe hsimone is right and we will learn more from the next books.

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Post by Amagine » 05 Apr 2017, 12:23

In spite of the Bible, some people believe God to be a woman. I've heard some people say that God isn't female or male. I believe that it is just the characters' beliefs to refer to God as female. It didn't bother me and I didn't question it.
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Post by gali » 05 Apr 2017, 12:33

I don't know why, but I found it refreshing.
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Post by Jennifer Allsbrook » 05 Apr 2017, 12:44

Aldonsa wrote:When Arthur and Frieda mentioned God they always said "she". Why "she"? What do you think?
I wonder maybe Council and Hunter's Order believe in the Aramaic Holy Spirit? :eusa-think:
To be honest, this did not resound with me. I think of God as an entity outside of the bounds of gender identity. Does it matter? I don't know. Maybe it will be explained later on in a future installment.

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Post by James Craft » 05 Apr 2017, 14:54

Jennifer Allsbrook wrote:
Aldonsa wrote:When Arthur and Frieda mentioned God they always said "she". Why "she"? What do you think?
I wonder maybe Council and Hunter's Order believe in the Aramaic Holy Spirit? :eusa-think:
To be honest, this did not resound with me. I think of God as an entity outside of the bounds of gender identity. Does it matter? I don't know. Maybe it will be explained later on in a future installment.
Yeah, I can see what you mean. I haven't seen anything particular about the gender of god in the second book, so I dunno what it is exactly.

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Post by Amagine » 05 Apr 2017, 15:50

gali wrote:I don't know why, but I found it refreshing.
I found it interesting too. Whenever you read about God in fictional work, it's rare for anyone use "she." I personally believe God to be a male but I was fine with the characters using "she." It was simply something different.
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Post by Aldonsa » 05 Apr 2017, 23:00

gali wrote:I don't know why, but I found it refreshing.
I don't quite understand what you mean. :? What did you find refreshing?

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Jennifer Allsbrook wrote: To be honest, this did not resound with me. I think of God as an entity outside of the bounds of gender identity. Does it matter? I don't know. Maybe it will be explained later on in a future installment.
This didn't resound with me as well. This make me curious about Divine in the book. I wondered if there is a specific hell maybe there is a specific god? :?

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Post by Vermont Reviews » 06 Apr 2017, 01:20

The author always controls the use of words and characters in the story.
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Post by Aldonsa » 06 Apr 2017, 23:02

Vermont Reviews wrote:The author always controls the use of words and characters in the story.
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I agree with you completelly

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