Do you question the existence of God?

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Agnosticism is as hard to defend as Gnosticism. They both depend upon the power of human intellect. If that's all we have to depend upon we are in trouble.
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No, I always believe in God. I am very spiritual person.
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Oh yes, all the time. I wasn't raised with a strong faith so I regularly question the existence of a higher being. Usually, what prompts this is 'how' or 'why'? How did this higher being come to be? What created this higher being? Why did this higher being decide to create anything in the first place? I love novels that ask existential questions and confront the reader worth those questions. Adding this to my bookshelf <3
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gali wrote:All the time! One should always question things and not follow blindly.
Agreed. I grew up Christian, but became agnostic. It's my personal opinion that the those phrases like, "there's no proof you just have to have faith," "he works in mysterious ways beyond our comprehension," are cop outs. I can't put my loyalty and faith in something that has such little proof. Why have a strong opinion on something you know little/ have little evidence about? --This is how I think in general. You don't know, so why dwell on it? Just focus on what you do know, like being a good person.

I can go on and on about all the reasons I'm not a believer, but I'll leave it at that. I do respect people's religions and choices to believe what they believe, so I hope no one takes offense to my opinion.
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"In the absence of any other proof, the thumb alone would convince me of God's existence." - Isaac Newton And, how about the eye?
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I've never really believed in God. Sometimes I wish I could have as much faith as other but I'm just too cynic.
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Hello "just too cynic". How depressing. Is there nothing or no person that you can/do trust? Are there no bright spots in your past or present? If you never really believed in God is there any other person you really believed in? The Bible says faith comes by hearing. What are you listening to?
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jimthorne2 wrote:"In the absence of any other proof, the thumb alone would convince me of God's existence." - Isaac Newton And, how about the eye?
Well, I mean, I believe in evolution. That we're made of the same stuff as stars and that the first life on earth likely came from hydrothermal vents at the bottom of the ocean, and we kept evolving from there... until we developed thumbs.

It sounds like a creation myth, doesn't it? That's what I like about science. It sounds like a creation story from a religious text, except it has evidence behind it.

I mean, in the absence of any other proof, the thumb alone would convince me of evolution. - Khaya :wink2:
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The evidence for evolution is as suspect as the evidence for fake news. You refer to "Creation myth". If it's written it must be myth right? How about all the written evidence provided for evolution? It must be a myth, right? All of the evidence for evolution is challenged. Where does that leave us?
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There are several flaws in what your saying, like your misunderstanding of what a scientific theory is and creation myth is. I mean, whether something is written or not has nothing to do with it being true or false, right? I can keep refuting you, but I don't really want to veer this discussion into a debate environment. If you really want me to respond to your questions and are interested in actually understanding the mind of an agnostic, feel free to pm me. But of course, only if it's going to be in a civilized debate sort of way, not in a banging my head with the bible, emotional argument type of way.
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Thanks, Khaya. I'm less interested in the mind of an agnostic than I am in the issue of agnosticism which seems to me to be uninteresting to someone who doesn't care about knowing.
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jimthorne2 wrote:Thanks, Khaya. I'm less interested in the mind of an agnostic than I am in the issue of agnosticism which seems to me to be uninteresting to someone who doesn't care about knowing.
My, I hope I'm just misreading that and you're not implying I have no interest and don't care about knowing, just because I disagree with you for valid reasons, because that would of been kinda rude. But in case that is what you're implying, I just want you to know I forgive you. A lot of people don't know how to have a civil disagreement--and I don't mean that in a sarcastic or demeaning way. It really is hard. I wouldn't say I'm perfect at it either.

Just so you know, for future reference, during a disagreement, you should "attack" the other's argument and their information and sources, never the actual person.
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If you will read my reply carefully you will see that I do not attack you personally but your idea. Sorry we misunderstood each other.
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I question it consistantly. I do believe that there is goodness in the world and that there is also bad to go along with it but as for believing in a God? I am in the gray area.
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I think that if one were to believe, they should go through the process of questioning in order to come to a positive conclusion.

“there have been so many times
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but
instead
beat his heart until it was unconscious.

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