Survival is Insufficient?

Discuss the March 2017 Book of the Month, Station Eleven by Emily St. John Mandel.

Which do you agree with?

Survival is Insufficient
7
29%
JSS: Just Survive Somehow
2
8%
Depends on the circumstances
15
63%
 
Total votes: 24

User avatar
Brittster
Posts: 37
Joined: 04 Apr 2016, 15:37
2017 Reading Goal: 25
2017 Reading Goal Completion: 12
Currently Reading: Inkheart
Bookshelf Size: 29
Reviewer Page: onlinebookclub.org/reviews/by-brittster.html
Latest Review: "Trankarri" by Christopher Dean
Reading Device: B00KC6I06S

Re: Survival is Insufficient?

Post by Brittster » 01 May 2017, 17:10

For the most part I would say survival in not enough. However, in dire situations or dangerous situations I would say it is possible to temporarily move into just survive somehow.

User avatar
AmeliaLovesBooks
Posts: 51
Joined: 16 May 2016, 23:17
2017 Reading Goal: 132
2017 Reading Goal Completion: 15
Currently Reading: Cat's Gambit
Bookshelf Size: 43
Reviewer Page: onlinebookclub.org/reviews/by-amelialovesbooks.html
Latest Review: "Lemoncella Cocktail" by Rene Natan

Post by AmeliaLovesBooks » 05 Jun 2017, 21:07

I think of the adage "Don't just survive, thrive." But that only applies in ideal circumstances which aren't always there. When it comes to life or death, its an instinctive response to survive, down to the cellular level. It is sufficient.

User avatar
Sarah G
Posts: 295
Joined: 09 Aug 2015, 08:51
2018 Reading Goal: 30
2017 Reading Goal: 50
2018 Reading Goal Completion: 16
2017 Reading Goal Completion: 4
Favorite Author: Brandon Sanderson
Currently Reading:
Bookshelf Size: 85
Reviewer Page: onlinebookclub.org/reviews/by-sarah-g.html
Latest Review: The Touch by Robert Flynn III
fav_author_id: 4040
Location: England

Post by Sarah G » 07 Jun 2017, 10:43

I think it would depend on the situation. You might just have to survive through a troubling time until you can get to a point where you can then live. It's not going to be such a clean line between the two
The purpose of a storyteller is not to tell you how to think, but to give you questions to think upon

User avatar
Czarmaine AM
Posts: 204
Joined: 11 May 2017, 23:56
2017 Reading Goal: 30
2017 Reading Goal Completion: 130
Bookshelf Size: 48
Reviewer Page: onlinebookclub.org/reviews/by-czarmaine-am.html
Latest Review: "Border Post 99" by Kedar Patankar

Post by Czarmaine AM » 09 Jun 2017, 04:08

I personally think that "JSS" mentality is ideal especially in post apocalyptic situation. By surviving, you can still have the opportunity to see tomorrow. It's good to be always hopeful in situations like these. Hold on to the belief that things may get better somehow.
"Though my soul may set in darkness, it will rise in perfect light;
I have loved the stars too fondly to be fearful of the night."
(The Old Astronomer to His Pupil by Sarah Williams)

User avatar
khusnick
Posts: 67
Joined: 25 May 2017, 17:20
2018 Reading Goal: 50
2017 Reading Goal: 100
2017 Reading Goal Completion: 12
Currently Reading: Atlas Shrugged
Bookshelf Size: 29
Reviewer Page: onlinebookclub.org/reviews/by-khusnick.html
Latest Review: Toni the Superhero by R.D. Base

Post by khusnick » 09 Jun 2017, 12:55

There isn't a point to survival when you aren't really living. The Walking Dead viewpoint has always seemed crazy to me. Why keep going? You're losing people you love and care about. You're constantly on edge. There's no purpose to your day-to-day life aside from making sure you don't die. That's no way to live. Survival is an instinct at that point, and it's a useless one at that.

User avatar
AYISHA_ASH
Posts: 38
Joined: 27 May 2017, 11:29
Bookshelf Size: 17
Reviewer Page: onlinebookclub.org/reviews/by-ayisha-ash.html
Latest Review: "My Mother Called Me UNNI" by Dr. Venugopal K. Menon

Post by AYISHA_ASH » 10 Jun 2017, 02:16

Living and surviving are two very different things.

-- 10 Jun 2017, 02:18 --

Living and surviving are two very different things. One must not confuse one with the other. Surviving means merely existing whereas living is having hopes and dreams, enjoying life.

User avatar
Lennycat
Posts: 185
Joined: 13 May 2017, 10:41
2018 Reading Goal: 12
2017 Reading Goal: 3
2018 Reading Goal Completion: 50
2017 Reading Goal Completion: 433
Currently Reading: finding nary
Bookshelf Size: 108
Reviewer Page: onlinebookclub.org/reviews/by-lennycat.html
Latest Review: Kitchen Dancing by Veronica Hughes
Location: Brooklyn, NY

Post by Lennycat » 13 Jun 2017, 17:20

Leese wrote:I'd go with Survival is Insufficient, simply because I don't think there's much to just simply existing for the sake of existing. I think there definitely has to be purpose to said survival in order for it to be worthwhile.
I agree. In my opinion, one has to choose to live. There must be a purpose or a reason for staying alive. Perhaps you aren't really alive if you are simply existing.

User avatar
rssllue
Posts: 42520
Joined: 02 Oct 2014, 01:52
2018 Reading Goal: 190
2017 Reading Goal: 190
2018 Reading Goal Completion: 16
2017 Reading Goal Completion: 29
Favorite Author: Ted Dekker
Favorite Book: <a href="http://forums.onlinebookclub.org/shelve ... 26661">The Bible</a>
Currently Reading: Heaven
Bookshelf Size: 386
Reviewer Page: onlinebookclub.org/reviews/by-rssllue.html
Latest Review: Midnight Musings by William E Lang Jr
fav_author_id: 2881
Location: Wisconsin

Post by rssllue » 13 Jun 2017, 23:52

I don't think that you ever gave us your own thoughts on the subject @Gravy What do you think?
~ occupare fati suffocavit

I will both lay me down in peace, and sleep: for Thou, LORD, only makest me dwell in safety. ~ Psalms 4:8

User avatar
Gravy
Gravymaster of Bookshelves
Posts: 30670
Joined: 27 Aug 2014, 02:02
2018 Reading Goal: 65
2017 Reading Goal: 60
2018 Reading Goal Completion: 46
2017 Reading Goal Completion: 78
Favorite Author: Too many to list
Favorite Book: As many as there are stars in the sky
Currently Reading: Black
Bookshelf Size: 881
Location: In A Good Book

Post by Gravy » 14 Jun 2017, 19:30

rssllue wrote:I don't think that you ever gave us your own thoughts on the subject @Gravy What do you think?
I added my vote to the third option :wink: :lol:
khusnick wrote:There isn't a point to survival when you aren't really living. The Walking Dead viewpoint has always seemed crazy to me. Why keep going? You're losing people you love and care about. You're constantly on edge. There's no purpose to your day-to-day life aside from making sure you don't die. That's no way to live. Survival is an instinct at that point, and it's a useless one at that.
I guess I'm weird. I always thought surviving would be even more important during/after an apocalypse. :lol:
Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.

The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.

The greater the power, the more dangerous the abuse.


:reading-4:

User avatar
LKCooper
Posts: 36
Joined: 19 May 2017, 08:29
Favorite Book: <a href="http://forums.onlinebookclub.org/shelve ... ">Breaking Sandcastles</a>
Currently Reading: Sherlock Holmes Detective Agency
Bookshelf Size: 15

Post by LKCooper » 14 Jun 2017, 21:03

katiesquilts wrote:In my opinion, simple surviving isn't that hard to do. As long as you had food and water, you could lay on your back 24/7 and still survive. But no one wants a life like that. Even people with depression who find it hard to do much more than lay down for hours at a time still don't like it. Human beings need more than survival -- they need exercise, meaningful relationships, a cause or goal to devote themselves to, and more than anything, a reward for surviving. If, at the end of the day, all you can say is, "Great, I didn't die today!" then something is probably wrong...
I completely agree. Something to live for is a must. Life without purpose is horrible. I've seen it close up in others I care about. Might as well die and move on to the next realm or life.

User avatar
kislany
Previous Member of the Month
Posts: 902
Joined: 16 Aug 2014, 06:17
Currently Reading:
Bookshelf Size: 159
Reviewer Page: onlinebookclub.org/reviews/by-kislany.html
Latest Review: The Warramunga's Aftermath of War by Greg Kater

Post by kislany » 21 Jun 2017, 09:18

Sometimes survival is all there is to simply not dying, but other times what is the point of survival if you can not enjoy life to the fullest? I guess it depends on the situation really, and hopefully merely 'survival' is only a temporary state.

User avatar
Anjum
Posts: 245
Joined: 05 Jun 2017, 09:49
Bookshelf Size: 18
Reviewer Page: onlinebookclub.org/reviews/by-anjum.html
Latest Review: "The Elf Brief" by Jordan David

Post by Anjum » 03 Dec 2017, 07:13

I really think that it totally depends on the situation of a person. Some people pursue for more knowledge when they have achieved success but some don't even have food and water.

User avatar
Sakilunamermaid
Posts: 291
Joined: 18 Jan 2018, 22:29
2018 Reading Goal: 52
2018 Reading Goal Completion: 23
Currently Reading: Ready Player One
Bookshelf Size: 139

Post by Sakilunamermaid » 06 Apr 2018, 14:35

When the fall of a civilization and all structure happens, its most important to keep everyone alive and just to survive. It will come to a point where people will have to settle and start farming and starting over/ making roots.

jvez
Posts: 313
Joined: 08 Apr 2018, 00:15
Currently Reading:
Bookshelf Size: 36
Reviewer Page: onlinebookclub.org/reviews/by-jvez.html
Latest Review: The Providence of Fortune by T. K. Love

Post by jvez » 22 Apr 2018, 04:53

I'd say surviving is insufficient. At one point, you can't just strive and live each day living in fears and uncertainty. You'll have to find a solution or else it will just be a tiring cycle. And I don't think this type of life is worth living.

Post Reply

Return to “Discuss "Station Eleven" by Emily St. John Mandel”