Basic "Facts" About Vampires

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Basic "Facts" About Vampires

Post by gali » 01 Dec 2016, 16:12

There are many legends about vampires. I like the fresh take on vampires here. One known "fact" about Vampires is that they burn in daylight. Eric only suffers some ill effect through Sunset and Sunrise, but can be exposed to daylight otherwise. What do you know about vampires and how does it apply here?
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Post by hsimone » 01 Dec 2016, 17:25

Ooo...this is a good one.

I "know" that vampires need blood in order to survive. In many stories, it's the only thing they need and they get it by using their fangs to pierce the humans' necks to gain strength. In Nightlord, yes, Eric needs blood, but he doesn't necessarily need to puncture and/or kill people to get strength from them. He can use his 'tendrils' to take some human strength, which is kind of neat. He can just pass through a village and can use his 'tendrils' to take a little strength from many and just make humans sleepy.
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Post by Gravy » 01 Dec 2016, 20:09

I can't say how it applies to the book, but one of the original vampire "facts" was that they had to keep dirt from their homeland, to sleep in. That also brings to mind the whole coffin thing, which obviously does not apply here; that much I know from the sample :lol:

Also, the stake through the heart.

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Post by csydc » 01 Dec 2016, 23:51

Another fun fact!! Many people thought that children who had hair when they were born, or who had red hair were more likely to be vampires! :)

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Post by Jennifer Allsbrook » 01 Dec 2016, 23:52

[quote="Gravy"]That also brings to mind the whole coffin thing[quote]

This made me laugh. Eric stays in body bags...a more portable version of a coffin. Other "facts" about vampires that I can remember from previous stories include that vampires make more of their own kind by feeding the convert their own blood. They are the "undead" and are immortal. Many vampires can transform into mist to move quickly. Vampires use mind control, and are very strong....and that is all that I can think of that has not already been mentioned.

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Post by gali » 02 Dec 2016, 00:51

Also, in the book, there are nightwalker vampires sand dayblood vampires like Eric.
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Post by hsimone » 02 Dec 2016, 04:13

Another 'fact' is that vampires have super-human strength, so don't mess with them! Eric/Halar is definitely strong, which I believe he mentions often, but I'm remembering a couple of fighting scenes where he was a bit sore/tired afterwards. Then, that would contradict having super-human strength all of the time.
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Post by rssllue » 02 Dec 2016, 05:49

Some other very common elements related to vampires are their being repelled by a cross and physically harmed by holy water. Garlic is also supposed to deter them from coming around as well...but that could be just a taste preference. :roll: ;)
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Post by Amcdanel86 » 03 Dec 2016, 00:29

hsimone wrote:Another 'fact' is that vampires have super-human strength, so don't mess with them! Eric/Halar is definitely strong, which I believe he mentions often, but I'm remembering a couple of fighting scenes where he was a bit sore/tired afterwards. Then, that would contradict having super-human strength all of the time.
His strength depends on which phase he is in. The living vampire phase during the day he just has enhance body strength. The dead phase at night is when he has super-human strength. That is how I took it.

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Post by Gravy » 03 Dec 2016, 04:02

Mind control. It's rare to find a vampire mythology where they don't have some sort of psychic talent, usually for subduing humans.
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Post by hsimone » 04 Dec 2016, 06:56

Amcdanel86 wrote:
hsimone wrote:Another 'fact' is that vampires have super-human strength, so don't mess with them! Eric/Halar is definitely strong, which I believe he mentions often, but I'm remembering a couple of fighting scenes where he was a bit sore/tired afterwards. Then, that would contradict having super-human strength all of the time.
His strength depends on which phase he is in. The living vampire phase during the day he just has enhance body strength. The dead phase at night is when he has super-human strength. That is how I took it.
Very good point! This is very true and I forgot to mention it. I guess in this aspect this vampire 'fact' holds true to what we have known. Vampires go out at night, while stay hidden during the day. Eric/Halar doesn't doesn't necessarily stay hidden (except for a body bag for a while), but his strength is weakened compared to nighttime. Thank you. :)
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Post by katiesquilts » 04 Dec 2016, 23:14

hsimone wrote:Ooo...this is a good one.

I "know" that vampires need blood in order to survive. In many stories, it's the only thing they need and they get it by using their fangs to pierce the humans' necks to gain strength. In Nightlord, yes, Eric needs blood, but he doesn't necessarily need to puncture and/or kill people to get strength from them. He can use his 'tendrils' to take some human strength, which is kind of neat. He can just pass through a village and can use his 'tendrils' to take a little strength from many and just make humans sleepy.
I think Eric's tendril abilities is what makes this book so unique!
I know that in a lot of other vampire books, many vampires struggle when taking blood/energy from humans. Especially newly bitten/formed vampires. A big part of their training to be a vampire is to take enough to satisfy their bloodlust without killing their victim.

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Post by rssllue » 05 Dec 2016, 23:38

Gravy wrote:Mind control. It's rare to find a vampire mythology where they don't have some sort of psychic talent, usually for subduing humans.
That was most definitely emphasized in the original Dracula with Bela Lugosi using the close ups and eerie lighting effects. It was actually done very nicely and worked in the movie quite well.
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Post by Randomgold » 07 Dec 2016, 13:56

I am enjoying that this book pays attention to many vampire stories, then works around them in some way. Blood drinking? Yes, but only at night, and not all the time. Mind control? Tendrils to "eat" certain aspects of the mind to get the desired effect. Vulnerability to holy stuff? Holy/light magic. No crossing running water? Sinks like a stone. Old legends with new attributes are interesting when done right.
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Post by Camogirl217 » 14 Dec 2016, 14:12

I did a quick Google search on why vampires can't be in the daylight. Their eyes are hyperdilated, so the sun hurts their eyes. The sun also causes epileptic fits because of a neural passageway in their brain. It's interesting how thorough these myths and legends are!
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