Conner Archer

Discuss the November 2016 Book of the Month, Roan: The Tales Of Conor Archer by E. R. Barr.
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Post by Scott » 03 Nov 2016, 15:54

How do you like Conner Archer? Do you think he made a good hero? What do you like about this character? What do you dislike about him?
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Post by Janetleighgreen » 04 Nov 2016, 21:59

I like Conor overall; he seemed a little too naive at times, although I guess it makes sense because he was home schooled. He did work at a bar, though, so you would think he would be a little more worldly. I did like that he caught on quickly to some of the things that were going on around him. I also appreciated how the author showed his internal struggle because he had a good heart and he fought against the darkness inside him.

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Post by ebeth » 05 Nov 2016, 23:22

I have to agree. I'm to the part where Conor is trying to figure out what is going on with him. It is nice to see that the dog Troubles is still with him. The dog to me adds a little more oomph if you get my drift. Otherwise Conor does seem naive like you said.

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Post by gali » 08 Nov 2016, 23:24

So far I like him and found him very relatable. I liked the way he took care of his mom. He is a bit naïve. but he is only 17 after all. Troubles is adorable!
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Post by ebeth » 09 Nov 2016, 18:50

Yes, you do have a point that he is only 17, so you may find a naive side to him. I also enjoyed how they added Beth into the mix because it showed that just because he is a different person it doesn't mean she isn't going to love him.

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Post by Janetleighgreen » 09 Nov 2016, 19:00

ebeth wrote:Yes, you do have a point that he is only 17, so you may find a naive side to him. I also enjoyed how they added Beth into the mix because it showed that just because he is a different person it doesn't mean she isn't going to love him.
I thought that it was a nice touch to show a sweet love for Conor. I also like the little thorn the author threw in about their actions breaking the long standing truce.

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Post by gali » 09 Nov 2016, 23:39

I also like the developing relationship between him and Beth. Remember that the changes came upon him rather quickly, and no one explained anything to him, so I thought he handled them relatively well. I found it a bit irritating that his aunt refused to tell him anything about the changes at first.
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Post by Janetleighgreen » 10 Nov 2016, 07:58

gali wrote:I also like the developing relationship between him and Beth. Remember that the changes came upon him rather quickly, and no one explained anything to him, so I thought he handled them relatively well. I found it a bit irritating that his aunt refused to tell him anything about the changes at first.
Yeah, I was a little pissed at her too. If she is to help and protect him, why not give him info?

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Post by Vermont Reviews » 16 Nov 2016, 01:25

Sometimes changes need to be experienced by the individual rather than being told or explained. These are my feelings about that.
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Post by Janetleighgreen » 16 Nov 2016, 08:06

Vermont Reviews wrote:Sometimes changes need to be experienced by the individual rather than being told or explained. These are my feelings about that.
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I agree, but I just felt he was left struggling too long; it is fine to let the character experience some changes on his own, but he grew up thinking he was normal. His mother hadn't given a hint as to what his life would be like when he went back to Tinkers Grove after she died, then his aunt wouldn't really answer his quescions; everyone just kept telling him to accept what he was, and fulfill his destiny. Not to mention his father stayed away from him too, as teenager he should have been so pissed at them all the time. Ha.

This is just my opinion, I just thought it would've helped the flow of the story. I think this is where some of the repetition came in through the dialogue; also, since it took him so long to accept these changes on his own, you got some repetition and that slowed the pace.

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Post by gali » 16 Nov 2016, 09:15

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Vermont Reviews wrote:Sometimes changes need to be experienced by the individual rather than being told or explained. These are my feelings about that.
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I agree, but I just felt he was left struggling too long; it is fine to let the character experience some changes on his own, but he grew up thinking he was normal. His mother hadn't given a hint as to what his life would be like when he went back to Tinkers Grove after she died, then his aunt wouldn't really answer his quescions; everyone just kept telling him to accept what he was, and fulfill his destiny. Not to mention his father stayed away from him too, as teenager he should have been so pissed at them all the time. Ha.

This is just my opinion, I just thought it would've helped the flow of the story. I think this is where some of the repetition came in through the dialogue; also, since it took him so long to accept these changes on his own, you got some repetition and that slowed the pace.
Good point Vermont Reviews, but I agree with Janetleighgreen on all points. I feel that if he had some info, he would have embraced his fate more easily.
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Post by Vermont Reviews » 16 Nov 2016, 11:09

Great thanks so very much for the reply.
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Post by greenstripedgiraffe » 16 Nov 2016, 12:02

Conor is overall a pretty good character. He doesn't seem to be developed as much as Jace. I agree with some of the others that it feels as though Conor is left in the dark a bit too long. Conor appears to be somewhat of a reluctant hero type, but it's a bit more complex overall for that. But, to give the guy a break - it IS pretty freakish to be turning into something not human, or to find out that you are really a whole ton older than you thought you were. Confusing too, to have all those different voices and perspectives manifesting themselves to you - between Rory, Aunt Emily, the Abbot and others... That's a lot to sort through, especially when you are just a kid in experience.
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Post by Vermont Reviews » 21 Nov 2016, 10:36

Nice one greenstripedgiraff.

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Post by James Craft » 06 Jan 2017, 10:18

The byronic/reluctant hero is a good trope. I didn't like him too much, but that could be a personal preference of stylistic choices rather than the character himself.

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