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Re: Fanfiction
- MikleoKrein
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Yeah, I mean, it's self-explanatory and obvious in the way that someone made the book, but other people make money off it because they sold their own remake of said book without the original author's permission. It's illegal in so many ways. It doesn't only apply to fanfics, it also applies to audio, visual arts, projects, videos, and many other things with copyright on it.briellejee wrote: ↑07 Jul 2018, 02:08The main question was if it should be listed as a genre like Romance, Horror etc., as a published book and you said it should not be, the simplest answer i got from a fanfic writer herself. Thanks for that. Your first paragraph though only considers fanfiction as a sub-genre. It's not all on its own a genre as a published book. Also, it might seem self-explanatory for you, but for people who were blinded by prejudice on fanfics, it's not. And yet, i really do appreciate you taking time to explain this.MikleoKrein wrote: ↑05 Jul 2018, 13:11briellejee wrote: ↑04 Jul 2018, 19:53
Yes, published ones are not always good ones. The issue of people in fanfics though, as from previous replies, is that it tarnishes (or maybe improves) an original character. I have read some good plots, especially in fandoms, but as what I've said, the main issue is recreating a character. Anyways, the point of this topic was to ask if fanfiction should be categorized as a genre all on its own?
Hm, the topic of 'If Fanfics should be categorized as a genre of its own'... it already is. In some major sites where writers can publish original stories, poetry, non-fiction, and others, Fanfiction has a genre all on its own. It is to separate those who don't like to read fanfics and those who prefer to read a certain type of fanfic.
I guess it depends on the book's author in the end. For example, JK Rowling actually encourages fanfic writers for Harry Potter. Of course, fanfics should stay as 'Free' and never be published because the original author can sue you for that. That is why Fanfics should not be a Genre in Published Books (like published books you see in bookstores/amazon/etc.). That's self-explanatory.
As for fanfic being a sub-genre, I agree with that, but many others who doesn't like fanfics consider it as a Main Genre believe it or not. You can see that and feel that when you visit sites such as Wattpad and other online sites. As for 'it's not all on its own a genre as a published book', it will never be a genre in published books in bookstores/onlinestores because if an author publishes a fanfic for monetary purposes, then countless lawsuits will sure to follow.
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I, myself, am writing a fanfiction of my favourite comic book, and although I write it English, it's nice sharing it with some like-minded people who will give you feedback and discuss it with you.
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While I agree with most of what you've said, I'd like to point out that fanfiction is different to certain other kinds of audio-visual projects that use copyrighted material. The thing is, it depends on if it falls under fair use guidelines, how transformative the work is and how much you use. Obviously in the case of fanfiction and A.V. projects that fall under that banner, you absolutely cannot monetise the author's work for your own gain, whereas if it's like, say, a critical essay in video format, there's some leeway there.MikleoKrein wrote: ↑09 Jul 2018, 11:49Yeah, I mean, it's self-explanatory and obvious in the way that someone made the book, but other people make money off it because they sold their own remake of said book without the original author's permission. It's illegal in so many ways. It doesn't only apply to fanfics, it also applies to audio, visual arts, projects, videos, and many other things with copyright on it.briellejee wrote: ↑07 Jul 2018, 02:08The main question was if it should be listed as a genre like Romance, Horror etc., as a published book and you said it should not be, the simplest answer i got from a fanfic writer herself. Thanks for that. Your first paragraph though only considers fanfiction as a sub-genre. It's not all on its own a genre as a published book. Also, it might seem self-explanatory for you, but for people who were blinded by prejudice on fanfics, it's not. And yet, i really do appreciate you taking time to explain this.MikleoKrein wrote: ↑05 Jul 2018, 13:11
Hm, the topic of 'If Fanfics should be categorized as a genre of its own'... it already is. In some major sites where writers can publish original stories, poetry, non-fiction, and others, Fanfiction has a genre all on its own. It is to separate those who don't like to read fanfics and those who prefer to read a certain type of fanfic.
I guess it depends on the book's author in the end. For example, JK Rowling actually encourages fanfic writers for Harry Potter. Of course, fanfics should stay as 'Free' and never be published because the original author can sue you for that. That is why Fanfics should not be a Genre in Published Books (like published books you see in bookstores/amazon/etc.). That's self-explanatory.
As for fanfic being a sub-genre, I agree with that, but many others who doesn't like fanfics consider it as a Main Genre believe it or not. You can see that and feel that when you visit sites such as Wattpad and other online sites. As for 'it's not all on its own a genre as a published book', it will never be a genre in published books in bookstores/onlinestores because if an author publishes a fanfic for monetary purposes, then countless lawsuits will sure to follow.
With regards to the genre question, even if it's published, it doesn't count as a genre of its own since most fic, unless it's an alternative setting, maintains the original's base genre. Personally, I used to read a ton of fanfiction, but a lot of it couldn't stand up on its own outside of the source material because while it's good for learning how to construct plot and, in some cases, setting, tone and atmosphere, it's not the same as an original novel. It's why books like Fifty Shades aren't as, in my opinion, good as people think they are because they rely heavily on the original author's characterisation and established relationship dynamics.
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I think that's why I really don't like fanfic that strays from the original personality of the character. But sometimes, I do think there are fanfic writers out there that twist the personalities in a nice writing style that I tend to like their twist and their perspective. But I do agree with you though, liking the original work too much and reading its fanfic isn't just the same.Monet_va wrote: ↑03 Jun 2019, 13:32 I've never been much of a fan of fan fiction, but mainly because of how the writers don't often understand the characters as the original author did. Some fanfics can be great, but mostly the characters seem wrong because they are behaving how the fanfic writer would like them to behave, rather than what is true to their nature. It can make reading the fics unbearable at times, especially when I've read the original work before.
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Yes I do agree about the characters. Basically to authors they are their children who they molded for years. Thanks for sharing your thoughts here. Hmm, I didn't see it as a way to practice writing before; but thinking about it, I think it would be good.Eclecticmama wrote: ↑03 Jun 2019, 19:22 I have read both good and bad fanfiction. As far as calling it a genre of its own, I would not. You cannot publish a fanfiction unless you get the rights from whoever owns the characters you are writing about. Most authors I know of are pretty protective of their characters, since they spend so much time with them, creating them and writing out their lives. So if it cannot be legally published and sold, can it be called a legitimate genre? Probably not. It is more used as a way to practice writing, like writing prompts.
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Firstly, it is a fan-written sequels of the original works (anime, books, games, movies, TV-shows, ets). People simply do not want to part with their favorite characters and (if it is fantasy or sci-fi) worlds. So, they write fanfiction.
In the same subgenre, you can also include "correctional" fan fiction. If someone's favorite character died, or anime \ book \ movie \ etc. had a bad ending, this someone can write fan fiction and cheer yourself up. Such fanfics are often well written and in no way inferior to real books.
Secondly, it is erotic\romance fanfics. As a rule, these fan fics are just fluent records of fan-girls’ erotic fantasies. It is very boring to read these records, and besides, you involuntarily find yourself in the role of a voyeurist. It is like looking into someone else’s head, and seeing the very private fantasies of the owner of this head.
In addition, erotic\romance fan fiction usually very bad written. Also, this subgenre is simply poisoned with Mary Sue characters.
Thirdly, it is fan-made humor stories and parodies of the original works. This often turns out to be very funny reading.
So, fanfiction is 1/3 very boring and 2/3 interesting reading for me.
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I think it can be done very well and can make for interesting literature, even if it's consumed by mostly teenagers.
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