I found it intriguing but have no idea why.Aldonsa wrote:When Arthur and Frieda mentioned God they always said "she". Why "she"? What do you think?
I wonder maybe Council and Hunter's Order believe in the Aramaic Holy Spirit?
About God in "Raven's Peak"
- Wasif Ahmed
- Posts: 662
- Joined: 19 Sep 2016, 22:00
- Currently Reading: The Face of Fear
- Bookshelf Size: 110
- Reviewer Page: onlinebookclub.org/reviews/by-wasif-ahmed.html
- Latest Review: Sigfried’s Smelly Socks! by Len Foley
- Reading Device: B00THRCA6E
Re: About God in "Raven's Peak"
- James Craft
- Posts: 371
- Joined: 14 Sep 2016, 11:41
- Currently Reading: Carnivore
- Bookshelf Size: 51
- Reviewer Page: onlinebookclub.org/reviews/by-james-craft.html
- Latest Review: "Perdido Bay Blues" by Jacqueline Lane
It has definitely sparked a lot of discussion in the forum here! If that was the author's intent, its working!Wasif Ahmed wrote:I found it intriguing but have no idea why.Aldonsa wrote:When Arthur and Frieda mentioned God they always said "she". Why "she"? What do you think?
I wonder maybe Council and Hunter's Order believe in the Aramaic Holy Spirit?
- greenstripedgiraffe
- Previous Member of the Month
- Posts: 836
- Joined: 22 Oct 2015, 10:47
- Currently Reading: The New Strong-Willed Child
- Bookshelf Size: 274
- Reviewer Page: onlinebookclub.org/reviews/by-greenstripedgiraffe.html
- Latest Review: Swarm by Guy Morris
-
- Posts: 10
- Joined: 11 Mar 2017, 07:13
- Currently Reading: The 11.05 Murders
- Bookshelf Size: 12
- Reviewer Page: onlinebookclub.org/reviews/by-rinsola-usman.html
- Reading Device: B005625APM
- Kitkat3
- Posts: 381
- Joined: 27 Jan 2017, 01:12
- Favorite Book: <a href="http://forums.onlinebookclub.org/shelve ... 1496">Milk and Honey</a>
- Currently Reading: All the Light We Cannot See
- Bookshelf Size: 254
- Reviewer Page: onlinebookclub.org/reviews/by-kitkat3.html
- Latest Review: A Bundle of Colorful Yarns by Louis Winslow
- Amagine
- Posts: 5441
- Joined: 04 Mar 2017, 19:27
- Bookshelf Size: 721
- Reviewer Page: onlinebookclub.org/reviews/by-amagine.html
- Latest Review: "Salome and Gogo visit Soweto" by Cora Groenewald
- Reading Device: B00IKPYKWG
"I am grateful for all the books that sparked my imagination." -Unknown
- Rebeccaej
- Posts: 107
- Joined: 03 Sep 2016, 19:49
- Favorite Book: <a href="http://forums.onlinebookclub.org/shelve ... 815">Imago (Xenogenesis Series #3)</a>
- Bookshelf Size: 15
- Reviewer Page: onlinebookclub.org/reviews/by-rebeccaej.html
- Latest Review: "The Reich Device" by Richard D. Handy
While I haven't asked explicitly, the impression I always get is that they're pointing out that God is inherently genderless, and if we hear "he" as most appropriate, that's a reflection of us and our patriarchal culture, not of God.
I mean, the bible portrays god as multi-gendered. Deuteronomy 32:18, for example, goes out of its way to portray god as both father and mother.
- Amagine
- Posts: 5441
- Joined: 04 Mar 2017, 19:27
- Bookshelf Size: 721
- Reviewer Page: onlinebookclub.org/reviews/by-amagine.html
- Latest Review: "Salome and Gogo visit Soweto" by Cora Groenewald
- Reading Device: B00IKPYKWG
That's interesting to know. I never knew there was a line in the Bible that portrayed God as both genders. Thank you for that information. I realized something new today.Rebeccaej wrote:I know a number of Christians--including a few ministers who sometimes refer to god as "She."
While I haven't asked explicitly, the impression I always get is that they're pointing out that God is inherently genderless, and if we hear "he" as most appropriate, that's a reflection of us and our patriarchal culture, not of God.
I mean, the bible portrays god as multi-gendered. Deuteronomy 32:18, for example, goes out of its way to portray god as both father and mother.
"I am grateful for all the books that sparked my imagination." -Unknown
- rssllue
- Previous Member of the Month
- Posts: 50731
- Joined: 02 Oct 2014, 01:52
- Favorite Book: The Bible
- Currently Reading: A Year with C. S. Lewis
- Bookshelf Size: 602
- Reviewer Page: onlinebookclub.org/reviews/by-rssllue.html
- Latest Review: My Personal Desert Storm by Marcus Johnson
I don't see where it says that in Deuteronomy. Chapter 32, verse 18 says: 18Of the Rock that begat thee thou art unmindful, and hast forgotten God that formed thee.Rebeccaej wrote:I know a number of Christians--including a few ministers who sometimes refer to god as "She."
While I haven't asked explicitly, the impression I always get is that they're pointing out that God is inherently genderless, and if we hear "he" as most appropriate, that's a reflection of us and our patriarchal culture, not of God.
I mean, the bible portrays god as multi-gendered. Deuteronomy 32:18, for example, goes out of its way to portray god as both father and mother.
I will both lay me down in peace, and sleep: for Thou, LORD, only makest me dwell in safety. ~ Psalms 4:8
- Gingerbo0ks
- Posts: 735
- Joined: 19 Mar 2017, 13:59
- Currently Reading: All the Crooked Saints
- Bookshelf Size: 168
- Reviewer Page: onlinebookclub.org/reviews/by-gingerbo0ks.html
- Latest Review: "Strong Heart" by Charlie Sheldon
- Reading Device: B00JG8GOWU
The same, I liked it, and at the end of the day, why not?gali wrote:I don't know why, but I found it refreshing.
― Cassandra Clare, Clockwork Angel
- Rebeccaej
- Posts: 107
- Joined: 03 Sep 2016, 19:49
- Favorite Book: <a href="http://forums.onlinebookclub.org/shelve ... 815">Imago (Xenogenesis Series #3)</a>
- Bookshelf Size: 15
- Reviewer Page: onlinebookclub.org/reviews/by-rebeccaej.html
- Latest Review: "The Reich Device" by Richard D. Handy
Interesting. Most translations have the first line as "fathered you," and the second line as, "gave you birth."rssllue wrote:I don't see where it says that in Deuteronomy. Chapter 32, verse 18 says: 18Of the Rock that begat thee thou art unmindful, and hast forgotten God that formed thee.Rebeccaej wrote:I know a number of Christians--including a few ministers who sometimes refer to god as "She."
While I haven't asked explicitly, the impression I always get is that they're pointing out that God is inherently genderless, and if we hear "he" as most appropriate, that's a reflection of us and our patriarchal culture, not of God.
I mean, the bible portrays god as multi-gendered. Deuteronomy 32:18, for example, goes out of its way to portray god as both father and mother.
And pairing those ideas in that format--so that they slightly contradict each other, mostly build on each other, and mean more together than either does individually--that's very in keeping with Hebrew poetic styles.
-- 09 Apr 2017, 11:27 --
Oh there's definitely more than one. I was actually trying to look up a different one--that's kind of poetic and uses the image of a creature giving birth, followed by the idea that God also has a womb and gave birth. I think it's in Psalms. I can't remember enough about it to find it, but I found this in my googling.Amagine wrote:That's interesting to know. I never knew there was a line in the Bible that portrayed God as both genders. Thank you for that information. I realized something new today.Rebeccaej wrote:I know a number of Christians--including a few ministers who sometimes refer to god as "She."
While I haven't asked explicitly, the impression I always get is that they're pointing out that God is inherently genderless, and if we hear "he" as most appropriate, that's a reflection of us and our patriarchal culture, not of God.
I mean, the bible portrays god as multi-gendered. Deuteronomy 32:18, for example, goes out of its way to portray god as both father and mother.
- Donnavila Marie01
- Posts: 931
- Joined: 19 Dec 2016, 02:39
- Currently Reading: the one
- Bookshelf Size: 89
- Reviewer Page: onlinebookclub.org/reviews/by-donnavila-marie01.html
- Latest Review: "America, It Was Just An Idea" by Dr. Rayna M. Gangi
- Aldonsa
- Posts: 134
- Joined: 07 Mar 2017, 02:20
- Currently Reading: God Is Not A Noun: Evolutionaries Illuminati Cosmic Bible Ginan
- Bookshelf Size: 62
- Reviewer Page: onlinebookclub.org/reviews/by-aldonsa.html
- Latest Review: "The Fifth Crusade" by Mark Butler
I like an idea about wicca in the ranks of Councilgreenstripedgiraffe wrote:This may not be the answer, but several people believe in a goddess instead of God. Or, they believe in a god and a goddess. This is huge in Wicca and also many pagan theologies.
-- 10 Apr 2017, 06:13 --
Krishna was a maleRinsola-Usman wrote:I believe they were referring to Krishna.
-- 10 Apr 2017, 06:20 --
Oh, that's more understandable! The characters are unique in their beliefs and the readers have free scope to imagination.Amagine wrote:In the Q&A, he was asked about the significance behind the use of "she." He said that it is not a major part of the plot. It was just done to make the characters unique and show they have their own individual beliefs.
Thanks for the information!
-- 10 Apr 2017, 06:27 --
When I was looking for information about God gender, I found that God can be considered as both father and mother in a paper that referred to the bible. But I failed to find about it in the bible.rssllue wrote:I don't see where it says that in Deuteronomy. Chapter 32, verse 18 says: 18Of the Rock that begat thee thou art unmindful, and hast forgotten God that formed thee.Rebeccaej wrote: I mean, the bible portrays god as multi-gendered. Deuteronomy 32:18, for example, goes out of its way to portray god as both father and mother.
-- 10 Apr 2017, 06:29 --
Very interesting ideas!Rebeccaej wrote: Oh there's definitely more than one. I was actually trying to look up a different one--that's kind of poetic and uses the image of a creature giving birth, followed by the idea that God also has a womb and gave birth. I think it's in Psalms. I can't remember enough about it to find it, but I found this in my googling.
-- 10 Apr 2017, 06:35 --
I agree with you, God must be perfect so he must be out of any human classifications. But people need to refer to him/her somehow.Donnavila Marie01 wrote:In analysis, God must not have sex classification, God is supposedly perfect. Carrying either of the female or male sex connotes imperfection. Come to think of it.
- rssllue
- Previous Member of the Month
- Posts: 50731
- Joined: 02 Oct 2014, 01:52
- Favorite Book: The Bible
- Currently Reading: A Year with C. S. Lewis
- Bookshelf Size: 602
- Reviewer Page: onlinebookclub.org/reviews/by-rssllue.html
- Latest Review: My Personal Desert Storm by Marcus Johnson
I have never seen God referred to as mother in the bible. I have seen Him many times referred to as Father and always with masculine pronouns as well. Jesus always called Him Father too. Things are usually pretty easy to find and understand in the bible actually (especially with search engines today), so if you struggle trying to find it, it probably isn't really in there to begin with. No matter what, it is a great book to read from cover to cover, which also keeps all of the verses in context which is so very important. I highly recommend reading it!Aldonsa wrote:When I was looking for information about God gender, I found that God can be considered as both father and mother in a paper that referred to the bible. But I failed to find about it in the bible.rssllue wrote:I don't see where it says that in Deuteronomy. Chapter 32, verse 18 says: 18Of the Rock that begat thee thou art unmindful, and hast forgotten God that formed thee.Rebeccaej wrote: I mean, the bible portrays god as multi-gendered. Deuteronomy 32:18, for example, goes out of its way to portray god as both father and mother.
I will both lay me down in peace, and sleep: for Thou, LORD, only makest me dwell in safety. ~ Psalms 4:8
- dhomespot
- Posts: 393
- Joined: 07 Nov 2013, 20:37
- Currently Reading: Blind Black Sheep
- Bookshelf Size: 69
- Reviewer Page: onlinebookclub.org/reviews/by-dhomespot.html
- Latest Review: The Sword Swallower and a Chico Kid by Gary Robinson