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Demonic world in Raven’s Peak

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Demonic world in Raven’s Peak

Post Number:#1 by Aldonsa
» 13 Apr 2017, 23:34

The book made me wonder how the demonic world (or hell) is organized. On the one hand there are references to Kabala, but there are contradictions too. Belphegor is not the demon of madness; he is supposed to be the demon of technological progress and laziness. Belphegor is an ancient and very serious demon; he doesn’t need to possess a human to cause damage. The same goes for Abaddon, he is even more powerful. When I read Abigail’s words “I came here to send the demon Abaddon back to hell”, I was very surprised. No one could send Abaddon back to hell for thousands years! :shock:
Maybe there are some other theories about hell and demons that accord with the book more? :eusa-think:
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Re: Demonic world in Raven’s Peak

Post Number:#2 by Christina O Phillips
» 16 Apr 2017, 18:08

I'm only about halfway in so I can't answer this yet, but I was thrown off by Abigail's declaration, too. She said she wants to send Abaddon back to hell. I had trouble with this name because in my experience Abaddon is a Knight of Hell and Sam and Dean Winchester had a hell of a time dealing with her (yes, I watch Supernatural). So I keep picturing the Abaddon in the book as the same Abaddon in the TV show Supernatural.

-- 16 Apr 2017, 17:10 --

I'm only about halfway in so I can't answer this yet, but I was thrown off by Abigail's declaration, too. She said she wants to send Abaddon back to hell. I had trouble with this name because in my experience Abaddon is a Knight of Hell and Sam and Dean Winchester had a hell of a time dealing with her (yes, I watch Supernatural). So I keep picturing the Abaddon in the book as the same Abaddon in the TV show Supernatural.
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Post Number:#3 by Amagine
» 17 Apr 2017, 16:03

Maybe Abaddon is only extremely powerful when he is in hell. If he is outside of it, his power is weaker and that makes it easier for Abigail to get rid of him.
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Post Number:#4 by Donnavila Marie01
» 17 Apr 2017, 18:17

The confusion on Abbadon's characterization is what makes Raven's Peak unique. The declaration of Abigail keeps us thinking and wondering which compels us to finish the book to look for the answers.
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Re: Demonic world in Raven’s Peak

Post Number:#5 by Amagine
» 17 Apr 2017, 18:28

Donnavila Marie01 wrote:The confusion on Abbadon's characterization is what makes Raven's Peak unique. The declaration of Abigail keeps us thinking and wondering which compels us to finish the book to look for the answers.


I agree. :)
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Post Number:#6 by Aldonsa
» 17 Apr 2017, 22:14

Christina O Phillips wrote:I'm only about halfway in so I can't answer this yet, but I was thrown off by Abigail's declaration, too. She said she wants to send Abaddon back to hell. I had trouble with this name because in my experience Abaddon is a Knight of Hell and Sam and Dean Winchester had a hell of a time dealing with her (yes, I watch Supernatural). So I keep picturing the Abaddon in the book as the same Abaddon in the TV show Supernatural.


I don't watch the TV show Supernatural, so I can't compare demonic characters. But in demonology Abaddon is indeed a very powerful knight of hell.
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Re: Demonic world in Raven’s Peak

Post Number:#7 by Amagine
» 17 Apr 2017, 22:28

Aldonsa wrote:
Christina O Phillips wrote:I'm only about halfway in so I can't answer this yet, but I was thrown off by Abigail's declaration, too. She said she wants to send Abaddon back to hell. I had trouble with this name because in my experience Abaddon is a Knight of Hell and Sam and Dean Winchester had a hell of a time dealing with her (yes, I watch Supernatural). So I keep picturing the Abaddon in the book as the same Abaddon in the TV show Supernatural.


I don't watch the TV show Supernatural, so I can't compare demonic characters. But in demonology Abaddon is indeed a very powerful knight of hell.


I think I read that somewhere too.
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Post Number:#8 by Aldonsa
» 17 Apr 2017, 22:30

Amagine wrote:Maybe Abaddon is only extremely powerful when he is in hell. If he is outside of it, his power is weaker and that makes it easier for Abigail to get rid of him.


It is an interesting idea. :idea:
In demonology Abaddon is a synonym of destruction and death. I think it means that he must be powerful in human world. (Or does he destroy hell? :shock: )
Nevertheless a demon of such high level doesn't have to possess someone, doesn't need a body for presence in our world.

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Donnavila Marie01 wrote:The confusion on Abbadon's characterization is what makes Raven's Peak unique. The declaration of Abigail keeps us thinking and wondering which compels us to finish the book to look for the answers.


That is a unique point of view of demons indeed. You are right, a reader is so confused that he have to finish all the series. :?
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Post Number:#9 by Kdonegan91
» 19 Apr 2017, 14:01

Christina O Phillips wrote:I'm only about halfway in so I can't answer this yet, but I was thrown off by Abigail's declaration, too. She said she wants to send Abaddon back to hell. I had trouble with this name because in my experience Abaddon is a Knight of Hell and Sam and Dean Winchester had a hell of a time dealing with her (yes, I watch Supernatural). So I keep picturing the Abaddon in the book as the same Abaddon in the TV show Supernatural.


My husband absolutely loves Supernatural. I refuse to watch it because I'm a big scaredy cat when it comes to demons and evil spirits.
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